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	<title>Comments on: This Week on the (Dr.) OC: No joy but lacks salt</title>
	<link>http://www.afreeman.org/2008/07/30/this-week-on-the-dr-oc-no-joy-but-lacks-salt/</link>
	<description>An American Expatriate - Stepping Up From Down Under</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 21:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: A Free Man</title>
		<link>http://www.afreeman.org/2008/07/30/this-week-on-the-dr-oc-no-joy-but-lacks-salt/#comment-4180</link>
		<dc:creator>A Free Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 05:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She puts me in pain sometimes, if the truth be told.</description>
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		<title>By: Vixen</title>
		<link>http://www.afreeman.org/2008/07/30/this-week-on-the-dr-oc-no-joy-but-lacks-salt/#comment-4165</link>
		<dc:creator>Vixen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 17:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.afreeman.org/2008/07/30/this-week-on-the-dr-oc-no-joy-but-lacks-salt/#comment-4165</guid>
		<description>AFM (biased or not) hit the nail on the head when he said this post was honest and evocative. Also as stated, you managed to convey the difficulties without overstating the gore. You are a gifted story teller. Having three kids (and two grand kids whose births I attended) I can relate to much of what you say, as some of them were quite complicated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AFM (biased or not) hit the nail on the head when he said this post was honest and evocative. Also as stated, you managed to convey the difficulties without overstating the gore. You are a gifted story teller. Having three kids (and two grand kids whose births I attended) I can relate to much of what you say, as some of them were quite complicated.</p>
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		<title>By: arizaphale</title>
		<link>http://www.afreeman.org/2008/07/30/this-week-on-the-dr-oc-no-joy-but-lacks-salt/#comment-4161</link>
		<dc:creator>arizaphale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 06:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.afreeman.org/2008/07/30/this-week-on-the-dr-oc-no-joy-but-lacks-salt/#comment-4161</guid>
		<description>It was a good idea to let AFM hold the baby. I held mine and was so tired I suffocated her (holding on too tight). They whisked her away when we noticed she was a navy blue colour but she pinked up ok once she could breathe. Maybe that's why she's such a blonde? I remember saying after she was born that "I'm never doing that again." and sadly, I was right.

arizaphales last blog post..&lt;a href="http://arizaphale.blogspot.com/2008/07/pain.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Pain&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was a good idea to let AFM hold the baby. I held mine and was so tired I suffocated her (holding on too tight). They whisked her away when we noticed she was a navy blue colour but she pinked up ok once she could breathe. Maybe that&#8217;s why she&#8217;s such a blonde? I remember saying after she was born that &#8220;I&#8217;m never doing that again.&#8221; and sadly, I was right.</p>
<p>arizaphales last blog post..<a href="http://arizaphale.blogspot.com/2008/07/pain.html" rel="nofollow">Pain</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dr. O'C</title>
		<link>http://www.afreeman.org/2008/07/30/this-week-on-the-dr-oc-no-joy-but-lacks-salt/#comment-4160</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. O'C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 01:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.afreeman.org/2008/07/30/this-week-on-the-dr-oc-no-joy-but-lacks-salt/#comment-4160</guid>
		<description>NATUI-Thanks.

Holly-I think people are only open when they go well.  Out of the 8 girls I did an antenatal class with, only two had uncomplicated births. Still, I am glad I wasn't made aware of all the possible complications that could arise before I gave birth.  

Chris-It wouldn't bother me to watch AFM in pain, if it meant I didn't have to go through it:)  Seriously though, it is a team effort.  Whilst I was getting stitched up it was lovely and distracting to see Chris holding the baby and singing softly to him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NATUI-Thanks.</p>
<p>Holly-I think people are only open when they go well.  Out of the 8 girls I did an antenatal class with, only two had uncomplicated births. Still, I am glad I wasn&#8217;t made aware of all the possible complications that could arise before I gave birth.  </p>
<p>Chris-It wouldn&#8217;t bother me to watch AFM in pain, if it meant I didn&#8217;t have to go through it:)  Seriously though, it is a team effort.  Whilst I was getting stitched up it was lovely and distracting to see Chris holding the baby and singing softly to him.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.afreeman.org/2008/07/30/this-week-on-the-dr-oc-no-joy-but-lacks-salt/#comment-4148</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 05:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.afreeman.org/2008/07/30/this-week-on-the-dr-oc-no-joy-but-lacks-salt/#comment-4148</guid>
		<description>Mine was complicated too OC and I'd do it again ten times to get the bebe.

I have to say and it's not siding with the boys but I almost(key word almost) think you guys have it worse.  It's like watching your kids in pain and you can't stop it.

My poor husband held my hand and just said over and over as I was keening from the lack of epidural effectiveness, "I'm so sorry, I didn't think it was going to be like this. Is there anything I can do?"(there wasn't) He also kept trying to figure out when to take the doctors to task or whether this level of pain was normal, usual...

He held my hand through all the worst parts and even told me I looked like a borg with all the moniters hanging out of my chacha and the wires attached everywhere which made me laugh.

And he held her next to me after surgery when I was too weak and dazed to hold her but wanted her close to me.  We might experience all of the pain but we certainly don't do it alone.

Chriss last blog post..&lt;a href="http://formerlyfun.blogspot.com/2008/07/manscaping-manzilian-part-one.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Manscaping the Manzilian - Part One&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mine was complicated too OC and I&#8217;d do it again ten times to get the bebe.</p>
<p>I have to say and it&#8217;s not siding with the boys but I almost(key word almost) think you guys have it worse.  It&#8217;s like watching your kids in pain and you can&#8217;t stop it.</p>
<p>My poor husband held my hand and just said over and over as I was keening from the lack of epidural effectiveness, &#8220;I&#8217;m so sorry, I didn&#8217;t think it was going to be like this. Is there anything I can do?&#8221;(there wasn&#8217;t) He also kept trying to figure out when to take the doctors to task or whether this level of pain was normal, usual&#8230;</p>
<p>He held my hand through all the worst parts and even told me I looked like a borg with all the moniters hanging out of my chacha and the wires attached everywhere which made me laugh.</p>
<p>And he held her next to me after surgery when I was too weak and dazed to hold her but wanted her close to me.  We might experience all of the pain but we certainly don&#8217;t do it alone.</p>
<p>Chriss last blog post..<a href="http://formerlyfun.blogspot.com/2008/07/manscaping-manzilian-part-one.html" rel="nofollow">Manscaping the Manzilian - Part One</a></p>
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		<title>By: holly*</title>
		<link>http://www.afreeman.org/2008/07/30/this-week-on-the-dr-oc-no-joy-but-lacks-salt/#comment-4147</link>
		<dc:creator>holly*</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 04:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.afreeman.org/2008/07/30/this-week-on-the-dr-oc-no-joy-but-lacks-salt/#comment-4147</guid>
		<description>wow. i had a whole 3 stitches (i tore up around my urethra. rare, but apparently easier to heal than tearing back) and took about 2 seconds. (thats in epidural time of course)

i'm so glad you're sharing your story. i dont think people are open and blunt enough with birth stories. they are a beautiful, painful, special, tramatic, wonderful, terrifying, amazing experiences that i thinks gives you something as a person... not to mention the little person that typically is the end result.

holly*s last blog post..&lt;a href="http://experiencelifewisely.blogspot.com/2008/07/blackberry-season.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;blackberry season.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow. i had a whole 3 stitches (i tore up around my urethra. rare, but apparently easier to heal than tearing back) and took about 2 seconds. (thats in epidural time of course)</p>
<p>i&#8217;m so glad you&#8217;re sharing your story. i dont think people are open and blunt enough with birth stories. they are a beautiful, painful, special, tramatic, wonderful, terrifying, amazing experiences that i thinks gives you something as a person&#8230; not to mention the little person that typically is the end result.</p>
<p>holly*s last blog post..<a href="http://experiencelifewisely.blogspot.com/2008/07/blackberry-season.html" rel="nofollow">blackberry season.</a></p>
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		<title>By: NATUI</title>
		<link>http://www.afreeman.org/2008/07/30/this-week-on-the-dr-oc-no-joy-but-lacks-salt/#comment-4146</link>
		<dc:creator>NATUI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 03:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.afreeman.org/2008/07/30/this-week-on-the-dr-oc-no-joy-but-lacks-salt/#comment-4146</guid>
		<description>That is one heck of a story.  I don't know how long they took to stitch me up after LittleMan.  Like you say, every birth and every baby is different.  Great story, and I am glad you shared.

NATUIs last blog post..&lt;a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/NotAfraidToUseIt/~3/350064472/ww-who-is-walking-whom.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Who Is Walking Whom?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is one heck of a story.  I don&#8217;t know how long they took to stitch me up after LittleMan.  Like you say, every birth and every baby is different.  Great story, and I am glad you shared.</p>
<p>NATUIs last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/NotAfraidToUseIt/~3/350064472/ww-who-is-walking-whom.html" rel="nofollow">Who Is Walking Whom?</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dr O'C</title>
		<link>http://www.afreeman.org/2008/07/30/this-week-on-the-dr-oc-no-joy-but-lacks-salt/#comment-4145</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr O'C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.afreeman.org/2008/07/30/this-week-on-the-dr-oc-no-joy-but-lacks-salt/#comment-4145</guid>
		<description>Gin- Your husband sounds like a wise man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gin- Your husband sounds like a wise man.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr O'C</title>
		<link>http://www.afreeman.org/2008/07/30/this-week-on-the-dr-oc-no-joy-but-lacks-salt/#comment-4144</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr O'C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.afreeman.org/2008/07/30/this-week-on-the-dr-oc-no-joy-but-lacks-salt/#comment-4144</guid>
		<description>I don't mean to put anyone off childbirth.  Mine was unusual and complicated because I had been on high levels of drugs to induce the birth and the labour took so long.  Shit happens.  To answer SSG's comment, it doesn't put me off having another child at all. Second children always come out easier.  Also I don't want Z to be an only child.  

April-Modern medicine has advanced enormously, so you will be fine.  The reason I never considered, even for a nanosecond, having the baby in a birthing centre, is because I wanted access to all the doctors, specialists and equipment medicine can offer in case anything went wrong.  

Boys-Yes you are wimps:)  Chris had to leave the room for all the internal examinations.  Surprisingly though he was at the tail end when Z did emerge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t mean to put anyone off childbirth.  Mine was unusual and complicated because I had been on high levels of drugs to induce the birth and the labour took so long.  Shit happens.  To answer SSG&#8217;s comment, it doesn&#8217;t put me off having another child at all. Second children always come out easier.  Also I don&#8217;t want Z to be an only child.  </p>
<p>April-Modern medicine has advanced enormously, so you will be fine.  The reason I never considered, even for a nanosecond, having the baby in a birthing centre, is because I wanted access to all the doctors, specialists and equipment medicine can offer in case anything went wrong.  </p>
<p>Boys-Yes you are wimps:)  Chris had to leave the room for all the internal examinations.  Surprisingly though he was at the tail end when Z did emerge.</p>
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		<title>By: April</title>
		<link>http://www.afreeman.org/2008/07/30/this-week-on-the-dr-oc-no-joy-but-lacks-salt/#comment-4143</link>
		<dc:creator>April</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 21:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.afreeman.org/2008/07/30/this-week-on-the-dr-oc-no-joy-but-lacks-salt/#comment-4143</guid>
		<description>Oops, sorry about the typo, can't even spell my own name!

Aprils last blog post..&lt;a href="http://www.bauerconfidential.com/2008/07/30/wordless-wednesday-a-splash-of-pink/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Wordless Wednesday: A splash of pink&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, sorry about the typo, can&#8217;t even spell my own name!</p>
<p>Aprils last blog post..<a href="http://www.bauerconfidential.com/2008/07/30/wordless-wednesday-a-splash-of-pink/" rel="nofollow">Wordless Wednesday: A splash of pink</a></p>
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