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	<title>Comments on: Z&#8217;s Music, er, Wednesday: Sell the kids for food</title>
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		<title>By: Jessica K</title>
		<link>http://www.afreeman.org/2008/10/08/zs-music-er-wednesday-sell-the-kids-for-food/comment-page-1/#comment-5413</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 15:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I&#039;m not your typical gen-x-er.  I had a very short floundering around period, but it was early, and it got old quick.  I had a very clear idea of the basic things I wanted from the time I was a teenager.  Fortunately, God sent Jeff into my life, and I was able to live out those dreams.  I wonder sometimes why God has made things so simple for me... and then I wonder how long it can last.  
Anyway, great comments by your dad.  He seems like a great guy.

Jessica Ks last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://justjessie.typepad.com/justjessie/2008/10/rainflowers-part-2.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rainflowers, part 2&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I&#8217;m not your typical gen-x-er.  I had a very short floundering around period, but it was early, and it got old quick.  I had a very clear idea of the basic things I wanted from the time I was a teenager.  Fortunately, God sent Jeff into my life, and I was able to live out those dreams.  I wonder sometimes why God has made things so simple for me&#8230; and then I wonder how long it can last.<br />
Anyway, great comments by your dad.  He seems like a great guy.</p>
<p>Jessica Ks last blog post..<a href="http://justjessie.typepad.com/justjessie/2008/10/rainflowers-part-2.html" rel="nofollow">Rainflowers, part 2</a></p>
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		<title>By: NATUI</title>
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		<dc:creator>NATUI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 04:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hadn&#039;t realized that he did a rip of the &quot;End of the World&quot;.  Stormfront is the one with &quot;We Didn&#039;t Start the Fire&quot; which I have used in every history class I have ever taught.  It also has &quot;Leningrad&quot; on it.  A phenomenal story of meeting a Soviet &quot;counterpart&quot;, how two people of the same age can grow up so differently.  Give it a listen.

As for the majority of his music, I am fairly indifferent.  There are just a handful of choice songs that I think are pretty great for one reason or another.  But Leningrad, talking about  coming together despite the Cold War.  Pretty great message.

NATUIs last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/NotAfraidToUseIt/~3/416330796/no-kitty-cat.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;No Kitty Cat!&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hadn&#8217;t realized that he did a rip of the &#8220;End of the World&#8221;.  Stormfront is the one with &#8220;We Didn&#8217;t Start the Fire&#8221; which I have used in every history class I have ever taught.  It also has &#8220;Leningrad&#8221; on it.  A phenomenal story of meeting a Soviet &#8220;counterpart&#8221;, how two people of the same age can grow up so differently.  Give it a listen.</p>
<p>As for the majority of his music, I am fairly indifferent.  There are just a handful of choice songs that I think are pretty great for one reason or another.  But Leningrad, talking about  coming together despite the Cold War.  Pretty great message.</p>
<p>NATUIs last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/NotAfraidToUseIt/~3/416330796/no-kitty-cat.html" rel="nofollow">No Kitty Cat!</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gypsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gypsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, T-town. It does have that strange mix of deep roots southern music and alternative college radio. 

I think that Music for the Masses or The Singles 81-85 were pivotal for me. I switched from a private school to a public high school and the world opened up in a big way. It was scary and huge and exciting and new and I just loved the dark synth pop of it all. 

In high school, though, we weren&#039;t so much about what was new. I graduated in the early 90s, and my favorite music at the time was Steve Miller, Pink Floyd, Depeche Mode, The Cure, Bob Marley, Bad Company, The Eagles. I enjoyed Red Hot Chili Peppers and Jane&#039;s Addiction and Pearl Jam and the rest, but it wasn&#039;t until I hit college, really, that I began appreciating more &quot;current&#039; music. 

Also, tell me you loved Vinyl Fever.

Gypsys last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/Strangedarkgypsygirl/~3/414078591/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How I learned to stop worrying and love my inner Edina&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, T-town. It does have that strange mix of deep roots southern music and alternative college radio. </p>
<p>I think that Music for the Masses or The Singles 81-85 were pivotal for me. I switched from a private school to a public high school and the world opened up in a big way. It was scary and huge and exciting and new and I just loved the dark synth pop of it all. </p>
<p>In high school, though, we weren&#8217;t so much about what was new. I graduated in the early 90s, and my favorite music at the time was Steve Miller, Pink Floyd, Depeche Mode, The Cure, Bob Marley, Bad Company, The Eagles. I enjoyed Red Hot Chili Peppers and Jane&#8217;s Addiction and Pearl Jam and the rest, but it wasn&#8217;t until I hit college, really, that I began appreciating more &#8220;current&#8217; music. </p>
<p>Also, tell me you loved Vinyl Fever.</p>
<p>Gypsys last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/Strangedarkgypsygirl/~3/414078591/" rel="nofollow">How I learned to stop worrying and love my inner Edina</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sherrie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sherrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 11:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is the XX thing, the only males I know who have shared my obession have also shared my crushes for the most part.  But its a love her or a hate her, no matter what sex you are.  And I am in the love her camp.  Even though I have stopped watching interviews, they just scare me, even at the height of obsession.

Sherries last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://stickyapplekisses.com/?p=238&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I Wanna Be A Fire Fighter!&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is the XX thing, the only males I know who have shared my obession have also shared my crushes for the most part.  But its a love her or a hate her, no matter what sex you are.  And I am in the love her camp.  Even though I have stopped watching interviews, they just scare me, even at the height of obsession.</p>
<p>Sherries last blog post..<a href="http://stickyapplekisses.com/?p=238" rel="nofollow">I Wanna Be A Fire Fighter!</a></p>
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		<title>By: Agnes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Agnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Holden cap and a Crows shirt stretched to cover a beer gut is daggy.&quot; Beautifully put! I didn&#039;t mean Sigur Ros is daggy though - far from it. And yes - ethereal is the word I think best describes them too. I meant that not being able to imagine my life without their music was possibly a bit of a daggy thing to say. Oh, and I don&#039;t get Tori Amos either.

Agness last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://itallstarted.wordpress.com/2008/10/10/satanic-messiah-wants-you-to-pay-what-you-like/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Satanic Messiah wants you to pay what you like&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Holden cap and a Crows shirt stretched to cover a beer gut is daggy.&#8221; Beautifully put! I didn&#8217;t mean Sigur Ros is daggy though &#8211; far from it. And yes &#8211; ethereal is the word I think best describes them too. I meant that not being able to imagine my life without their music was possibly a bit of a daggy thing to say. Oh, and I don&#8217;t get Tori Amos either.</p>
<p>Agness last blog post..<a href="http://itallstarted.wordpress.com/2008/10/10/satanic-messiah-wants-you-to-pay-what-you-like/" rel="nofollow">Satanic Messiah wants you to pay what you like</a></p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 05:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alice - I love me some Warren Zevon, &quot;Mr. Bad Example&quot; is on my moving to Australia soundtrack: 

Whereupon I stole her passport and her wig 
And headed for the airport and the midnight flight, you dig? 
And fourteen hours later I was down in Adelaide 
Looking through the want ads sipping Fosters in the shade

I opened up an agency somewhere down the line 
To hire aboriginals to work the opal mines 
But I attached their wages and took a whopping cut 
And whisked away their workman&#039;s comp and pauperized the lot

I&#039;m Mr. Bad Example, intruder in the dirt 
I like to have a good time, and I don&#039;t care who gets hurt
I&#039;m Mr. Bad Example, take a look at me 
I&#039;ll live to be a hundred and go down in infamy

Mike - Good point, the whole social consciousness thing with Cobain gets lost, I think. Songs like &quot;Rape Me&quot; are a good reminder. 

SSG - As to your first question, not to my knowledge. As to your second, you get old. 

Agnes - The UK will be fantastic for you. Definitely recommend the expat experience. Now, Sigur Ros - daggy? Come on. A Holden cap and a Crows shirt stretched to cover a beer gut is daggy. Sigur Ros is ethereal. 

FGIS - Yeah, made Dr. O&#039;C teary as well. That Alanis album was big for me when it came out as well, but I think resonates more for a woman. 

Trish - I was the bookish one and my sister the sporty one. Never too late to start hearing it.

NATUI - Which Billy Joel album is stormfront. Is that the one with the &quot;End of the World as We Know It&quot; rip off? &quot;We Didn&#039;t Start the Fire&quot;? I love his song &quot;Vienna&quot; but have never reallly gotten in to him. 

Sherrie - What is it with Tori Amos? I just have never gotten her, but know loads of people who have otherwise impeccable musical taste, who are absolutely obsessed with her. I think it must be a XX thing. 

CMGD - Nirvana in the sorority house, madness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alice &#8211; I love me some Warren Zevon, &#8220;Mr. Bad Example&#8221; is on my moving to Australia soundtrack: </p>
<p>Whereupon I stole her passport and her wig<br />
And headed for the airport and the midnight flight, you dig?<br />
And fourteen hours later I was down in Adelaide<br />
Looking through the want ads sipping Fosters in the shade</p>
<p>I opened up an agency somewhere down the line<br />
To hire aboriginals to work the opal mines<br />
But I attached their wages and took a whopping cut<br />
And whisked away their workman&#8217;s comp and pauperized the lot</p>
<p>I&#8217;m Mr. Bad Example, intruder in the dirt<br />
I like to have a good time, and I don&#8217;t care who gets hurt<br />
I&#8217;m Mr. Bad Example, take a look at me<br />
I&#8217;ll live to be a hundred and go down in infamy</p>
<p>Mike &#8211; Good point, the whole social consciousness thing with Cobain gets lost, I think. Songs like &#8220;Rape Me&#8221; are a good reminder. </p>
<p>SSG &#8211; As to your first question, not to my knowledge. As to your second, you get old. </p>
<p>Agnes &#8211; The UK will be fantastic for you. Definitely recommend the expat experience. Now, Sigur Ros &#8211; daggy? Come on. A Holden cap and a Crows shirt stretched to cover a beer gut is daggy. Sigur Ros is ethereal. </p>
<p>FGIS &#8211; Yeah, made Dr. O&#8217;C teary as well. That Alanis album was big for me when it came out as well, but I think resonates more for a woman. </p>
<p>Trish &#8211; I was the bookish one and my sister the sporty one. Never too late to start hearing it.</p>
<p>NATUI &#8211; Which Billy Joel album is stormfront. Is that the one with the &#8220;End of the World as We Know It&#8221; rip off? &#8220;We Didn&#8217;t Start the Fire&#8221;? I love his song &#8220;Vienna&#8221; but have never reallly gotten in to him. </p>
<p>Sherrie &#8211; What is it with Tori Amos? I just have never gotten her, but know loads of people who have otherwise impeccable musical taste, who are absolutely obsessed with her. I think it must be a XX thing. </p>
<p>CMGD &#8211; Nirvana in the sorority house, madness.</p>
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		<title>By: Coal Miner's Granddaughter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coal Miner's Granddaughter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 02:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome post, hon. I remember first hearing Cobain&#039;s music whilst decorating for a horrendous rush party. Ah, sorority life.

There are times I wish Ty and I had packed it up and headed out for greener pastures. He feels so very obligated to the family business but I wish he had taken a chance five years ago and applied to Lucas Arts for the job of Archivist/Historian for all of George Lucas&#039; crap. That? Would have been a kick-ass job.

Coal Miner&#039;s Granddaughters last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/coalminersgd/~3/415423389/cmg-imponderables-part-4.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CMG Imponderables, Part 4&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome post, hon. I remember first hearing Cobain&#8217;s music whilst decorating for a horrendous rush party. Ah, sorority life.</p>
<p>There are times I wish Ty and I had packed it up and headed out for greener pastures. He feels so very obligated to the family business but I wish he had taken a chance five years ago and applied to Lucas Arts for the job of Archivist/Historian for all of George Lucas&#8217; crap. That? Would have been a kick-ass job.</p>
<p>Coal Miner&#8217;s Granddaughters last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/coalminersgd/~3/415423389/cmg-imponderables-part-4.html" rel="nofollow">CMG Imponderables, Part 4</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sherrie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sherrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 22:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love the post, and I really liked what your dad wrote.  I&#039;ve been having this talk with my parents the past year or so (minus the musical aspect, which for me would have to be songs taken from Tori Amos until her latest album), and with some friends here.  We had an extended adolescence that our parents did not.  I still find it hard to wrap my brain around that fact that my mother at my age had three children, ranging from 6 down to 3, a house, was married for 8 years, and is working at the same place she is now. And she was not unusal.   I use to reject it completely, although I often wondered if lack of choice made you happier.  I complain that I have to work split shifts, despite the fact that I know I am a privileged person.  I just sometimes wonder if working a job I don&#039;t like means wasting the privilege I have of being able to make choices.  But yeah, culture changes brought about since the late 60s have meant we were given a  lot of choice, without a lot of guidance for that choice.  I like to think as we work it out the next generation will get the best of our life of choices, with some of the security (not necessarily finical so much as belief in what we were doing is the right choice) that our parents had.

Sherries last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://stickyapplekisses.com/?p=238&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I Wanna Be A Fire Fighter!&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love the post, and I really liked what your dad wrote.  I&#8217;ve been having this talk with my parents the past year or so (minus the musical aspect, which for me would have to be songs taken from Tori Amos until her latest album), and with some friends here.  We had an extended adolescence that our parents did not.  I still find it hard to wrap my brain around that fact that my mother at my age had three children, ranging from 6 down to 3, a house, was married for 8 years, and is working at the same place she is now. And she was not unusal.   I use to reject it completely, although I often wondered if lack of choice made you happier.  I complain that I have to work split shifts, despite the fact that I know I am a privileged person.  I just sometimes wonder if working a job I don&#8217;t like means wasting the privilege I have of being able to make choices.  But yeah, culture changes brought about since the late 60s have meant we were given a  lot of choice, without a lot of guidance for that choice.  I like to think as we work it out the next generation will get the best of our life of choices, with some of the security (not necessarily finical so much as belief in what we were doing is the right choice) that our parents had.</p>
<p>Sherries last blog post..<a href="http://stickyapplekisses.com/?p=238" rel="nofollow">I Wanna Be A Fire Fighter!</a></p>
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		<title>By: NATUI</title>
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		<dc:creator>NATUI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a great post, and a great question, to boot.  I think if you make the choice to breed, or be a company man, or live in the &#039;burbs because it is your CHOICE--that makes it okay.  A person isn&#039;t a sellout because they have different needs.  Lives change, people change, needs change.  To stick with a particular lifestyle because you are stubborn and unwilling to seek a new path--that is being a sellout.  If you are making decisions that feel true to your current state of mind you are always making the right choice.  Any one who says differently can fuck off.

As for the musical aspect to your question, I don&#039;t know that there was one album that was transcendent for me.  I&#039;ve always been behind the times and too eccentric in my musical tastes.  I have rarely been in sync with my peers.  I can say that nearly every Sting album as influenced me, and during my freshman year of college Billy Joel&#039;s Stormfront had a big impact.  Even now, his song &quot;I Go To Extremes&quot; is the absolute truest insight into my personality.  He could have written it for me.  I struggle every day to find that middle ground.

NATUIs last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/NotAfraidToUseIt/~3/415372716/conversation-killer-101.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Conversation Killer 101&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great post, and a great question, to boot.  I think if you make the choice to breed, or be a company man, or live in the &#8216;burbs because it is your CHOICE&#8211;that makes it okay.  A person isn&#8217;t a sellout because they have different needs.  Lives change, people change, needs change.  To stick with a particular lifestyle because you are stubborn and unwilling to seek a new path&#8211;that is being a sellout.  If you are making decisions that feel true to your current state of mind you are always making the right choice.  Any one who says differently can fuck off.</p>
<p>As for the musical aspect to your question, I don&#8217;t know that there was one album that was transcendent for me.  I&#8217;ve always been behind the times and too eccentric in my musical tastes.  I have rarely been in sync with my peers.  I can say that nearly every Sting album as influenced me, and during my freshman year of college Billy Joel&#8217;s Stormfront had a big impact.  Even now, his song &#8220;I Go To Extremes&#8221; is the absolute truest insight into my personality.  He could have written it for me.  I struggle every day to find that middle ground.</p>
<p>NATUIs last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/NotAfraidToUseIt/~3/415372716/conversation-killer-101.html" rel="nofollow">Conversation Killer 101</a></p>
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		<title>By: Trish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 11:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry - that should be &quot;your posts are always so much more interesting BECAUSE you set them to the music of your experience.

(Your posts are always interesting).

Trishs last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://lightsweetcrude.typepad.com/light_sweet_crude/2008/10/21-day-detox-day-fourteen.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;21 Day Detox: Day Fourteen&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry &#8211; that should be &#8220;your posts are always so much more interesting BECAUSE you set them to the music of your experience.</p>
<p>(Your posts are always interesting).</p>
<p>Trishs last blog post..<a href="http://lightsweetcrude.typepad.com/light_sweet_crude/2008/10/21-day-detox-day-fourteen.html" rel="nofollow">21 Day Detox: Day Fourteen</a></p>
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