Now this is why I moved to Australia. It is finally starting to feel like summer in Adelaide and I’ve got to say it was worth the wait – warm, dry days and cool, breezy nights. It’s as near a perfect climate as I’ve found. The locals tell me that I may change my mind come February when 40°C (104°F) days are not uncommon, but for the time being I’m a satisfied customer.
After one whole grueling day of work, today was Papa and Boy Z party day. Rather than letting my little terrorist destroy the family home, we hit the road for a visit with the Family Arizaphale. Lunch by the pool and then a trip south to Port Noarlunga was a perfect way to spend an absolutely gorgeous summer day.
Arizaphale’s become one of my favorite people that I’ve met in Australia – charming, gregarious, and an easy conversationalist. Despite her Pommie heritage, she’s characteristic of the friendly Aussie. After four years spent struggling to crack the iron veneer of the painfully reserved English, I find myself almost suspicious when I’m bowled over by affable Aussies strangers. But in general, they’re just genuinely good natured and friendly, much more like my fellow countrymen than their former colonial masters.
In fact, in most ways Australia is more like the U.S. than the U.K. There’s room for the suburban sprawl characteristic of American cities rather than the claustrophobic crowding of British city centers. Once you get into the countryside, the wide open spaces are reminiscent of parts of the American West. The Aussies love their cars and their sports and their road trips. And their donuts. They are often individualistic to a fault and fiercely nationalistic – like their American cousins. We’ve got all the American chain stores, all the American TV (or Australian imitations) and based on the news coverage during the election you would have thought that Australia had a few electoral votes at stake. Now that the Aussie twang sounds normal to my confused ears, sometimes I forget that I’m 10,000 miles away from my birthplace.
A little while before we departed for the Antipodes, I read a comment by The Prettiest Denny’s Waitress describing going to Australia as “like going to San Diego except the people use some funny words and the snakes are more poisonous”. I bristled a bit at that – surely Oz would be more exotic than a medium sized California city full of retirees and uniformed servicemen. But you know what? If you unfocus your eyes a bit while driving through parts of Adelaide, you could easily be in SoCal – San Diego with the occasional wandering marsupial and fewer Marines.
If Australia had been my first expatriate experience, I think I would have been disappointed. When I left the States in 2004, I was looking for something foreign. I got more of that than I expected in Britain, so much so that I was almost completely overwhelmed for the first couple of years. But four years into my expat adventure, I relish the familiarity that Australia offers. I’m looking for a home and on days like today – with my son, in the company of friends, basking in the sun and surf – Australia’s beginning to seem like just the right place for that elusive home.
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by arizaphale
06 Jan 2009 at 22:54
“Arizaphale’s become one of my favorite people that I’ve met in Australia – charming, gregarious, and an easy conversationalist.”
read: talks too much…..
Awwwww stop it AFM, you’re makin’ me blush
Meanwhile, I have a towel, a bottle of sunscreen and two dirty nappies to return to you at some point!!!!!
I’ve always thought Aus was much more like the USA than the land of Fog and Damp. Heck, as kids we even got all your TV programs! Mind you, I think there is a great difference in the national psyche. Subject for another beach day discussion perhaps?? Thanks for a great one. See you soon!
by Rol
06 Jan 2009 at 23:04
Considering how bloody cold it is over here at the moment, I’m seriously jealous!
by velocibadgergirl
06 Jan 2009 at 23:18
Sounds lovely to me!
by Lara
06 Jan 2009 at 23:42
I dunno, I kinda like my bipolar mid-western days vacillating among snow/fog/ice storm/flood/brilliant sun but frigid cold/dark & dreary. I’m not sure I would know what to do with a comfortable, perhaps even stable climate.
And, considering the next few months I have to make it through here, I’m not sure I dare even consider that option. Or you may find yourself with a house-guest who won’t leave!
by JChevais
06 Jan 2009 at 23:46
From Paris, which is currently under a blanket of snow (OMG), I gotta say that I’m envious of your easy days in a nice, stable, climate. Sigh.
And English. No matter what the accent. Sometimes I think I’d just like hearing more English. But then when I was home in Canada, there was too much English. Gads. Some chicks (like me) are never happy…
by SSG
07 Jan 2009 at 00:22
oz is so like the US it’s uncanny…. you have all the same shops! and you dig country music! and you have massive SUVs and roads! and you have shops in a group that you drive to rather than on a street! and you use dollars! exclamation mark!
by Agnes
07 Jan 2009 at 00:45
“Mind you, I think there is a great difference in the national psyche.”
I agree Arizaphale. And hope that this continues to be the case for many years to come!
by Father Muskrat
07 Jan 2009 at 01:16
I just stopped what I was doing to find Adelaide on the giant framed map I have on my wall in my office. Looks like a great spot to be right now.
Except for the snakes. That warning sign in yesterday’s post scareds me.
by bluestreak
07 Jan 2009 at 02:17
sounds lovely and …familiar.
now I could get used to THAT.
by tysdaddy
07 Jan 2009 at 02:54
I’ve never been to Australia. And the more you talk about it, the more I’d like to visit. Do you have a spare bedroom . . . ?
by courtney
07 Jan 2009 at 03:28
It’s cold and rainy here. Warm summer days sound good right now. Can I come visit?
by NATUI
07 Jan 2009 at 03:48
It is so nice to hear that things are starting to feel like home to you. Download Shaun Colvin’s Feels Like Home to help set the mood. I think you’ll like it.
by headbang8
07 Jan 2009 at 04:21
Arizaphale? Who’s she?
Whoever she is, I second her astute remark about “differences in national psyche”. It’s tempting to think of Australia as America Lite. Not quite–as I’m sure you’ll see.
But the similarities are there. And there’s a really interesting theory that, to my mind, explains many of them.
I stole my brilliant theory from here–http://www.peterwhybrow.com/books/americanmania/
It has to do with being a nation of immigrants. The immigrant has a different kind of psychobiology, it seems.
There is a certain restlessness and adventurousness in the head of those who choose to set sail for unseen shores. And, as we all know, differences in mood and temperament are, at least partly, neurological.
The immigrant temperament makes him open, social, craving novelty and change on one hand; impatient, combative, and a bit angry on the other. Interested in combative rather than competitive sports. A tad greedy, even, which makes the immigrant strain prone to workaholism, addictions and getting fat. (Fattest countries on Earth: #1) Oz, #2) USA)
I considered doing a blogpost about that after your thoughtful piece some months ago about being an immigrant. Might still do it.
by mickey
07 Jan 2009 at 06:42
Did I say that? I’m sure I could have, but I’ve never been to San Diego or Oz so I hardly know what I’m talking about. If I said that.
I’m glad you’re settling in.
by Coal Miner's Granddaughter
07 Jan 2009 at 07:00
I keep forgetting that it’s summer down there. And I love all the pictures of Boy Z. They help me forget the dreary, rainy days going on here.
You make Australia sound like an idyllic place I could really sink my teeth into. Can’t wait to get there someday!
by admin
07 Jan 2009 at 07:50
Ariza – You can keep the nappies, but I better get the sunscreen and towel back. It’s not my Georgia Bulldogs towel is it? As for the national psyche, I figured that my Aussie readers might recoil a bit at those comparisons. All I would say is – less than you probably think!
Rol – God, the British winters. They aren’t that cold, but dark and damp and gloomy as hell. Don’t miss them.
Veloci – It’s pretty darn good.
Lara – We’ve got a small spare room. As long as your willing to do toddler care, it’s rent free.
JChev – I bet Paris is beautiful in the snow. Is it like Britain where if a single flake falls then every form of public transport just stops?
SSG – They’re called malls. I forgot about the malls another good comparison. And the country music. Thanks for helping my argument!
Agnes – Ditto to Ariza. What do you think are the differences between the Australian and American psyche. I’m not saying you’re wrong, just want evidence.
Father Muskrat – I’ve yet to see a snake, I think they’re like unicorns.
Bluestreak – Yep, it’s nice right now. But a few years ago it would have annoyed the hell out of me.
Tys/Courtney – Same deal as I made for Lara. Free room and board for full time toddler care. Actually, Courtney, I know you hate kids, so maybe not you
NATUI – Love that song!
Headbang8 – You know – the chatty redhead?
I like your immigrant theory and maybe there’s a difference whether your country was founded by religious zealots or felons, maybe that’s the source of the purported difference in national psyche. The more I think about it there are differences. Well, I don’t know. I was going to say tolerance of alternative lifestyles, but I don’t know. Where Americans tend to be homophobic and slightly racist the Australians tend to be misogynistic and more than slightly racist. I’d love to hear some of your ideas regarding the difference in national psyche. Oh, and I should have used the fatty stats as well!
by admin
07 Jan 2009 at 08:02
Mickey – Yep, as a comment on the interview that Courtney did with me ages ago. I hang on to things. It’s one of my charms. Despite not having been to either place you seem to have nailed it. So – well done.
CMGD – I don’t know about idyllic, but it’s pretty damn good.
by Dr O'C
07 Jan 2009 at 08:32
As someone who grew up in Adelaide and spent a year living in San Diego I have to say that when I moved to San Diego and several of my European colleagues would rave about the climate, the flora and lifestyle I couldn’t get excited. To me it was just like being at home. There were eucalypts everywhere on UCSD campus and the weather was like Adelaide’s. In terms of national psyche I was pretty disgusted when I moved back to Adelaide after 8 years away that over 80% of people polled did not agree with any form of paid maternity leave. This is an absolute standard in European countries. You can’t tell me that people should have to go back to work 6 weeks after having a child and that it is in the national interest to put a 6 week old baby in daycare. It made me think back to a conversation I had with a narrow-minded colleague whilst living in the mid-west US who did not think his tax dollars should subsidise health care for all. Australian’s have become much more self-obsessed since I left and I am not sure I like it.
AFM might be absolutely sure we made the right decision coming back here, but me, I am not so sure sometimes.
by sarala
07 Jan 2009 at 08:35
I love the debate on all this.
Many years ago I visited Melbourne and thought it looked just like Southern California. I thought that a bit disappointing. Who wants to fly half way across the world and wind up in one’s own back yard? I still want to go back and visit the barrier reef, the interior and return to Sydney for a follow up.
The problem with people’s impressions of us Americans is that while there are the zealots, homophobes, xenophobes and racists, we also have wonderfully open and tolerant people all over the place. We’ve just gone through an era where the religious zealots have controlled the presidency and too much of the airwaves. But the open, kind, tolerant people are still out there seething and wishing for a large island we could ship our rightists to. Too bad Antarctica isn’t available.
by admin
07 Jan 2009 at 10:14
A woman in my office summed it up pretty well just now – Americans are ‘direct’ (aggressive, driven) and Australians are ‘fluffy’ (friendly, easygoing). And the British act ‘fluffy’ while being ‘direct’. Not perfect, and a generalization, but pretty good!
by Agnes
07 Jan 2009 at 10:27
I think I’m way outta my depth here, debate wise, but I’ll make a tentative attempt to respond.
Your comment about us Aussie readers recoiling at your comparisons is spot on, at least in my case. I guess I resent the fact that we’re becoming more and more like America, and much of it stems from the crap we put up with here in Australia when Howard was kowtowing to George Dubya for all those years.
I realise that you’re mainly referring to the climate and lifestyle rather than political stuff but I have to admit my hackles rose slightly at the notion that we’re not all that different from America.
Having said that though, of course I realise that the U.S. is made up of more than just narrow minded Dubya followers and so on, as Sarala pointed out, and as was shown during the lead up to the last election. (And yeah, the media obsession here in Oz with the U.S. election was more than a little ridiculous!)
The same is true here in Australia. And while it’s true to say that SOME Australians are ‘more than slightly racist’, I’d like to make a similar point to Sarala – it’s not all of us.
As she said, we too have open, kind and tolerant people and there are millions of us who voted and applauded when we were finally rid of Howard and all his narrow minded bigoted ideas. And while I believe the government has a long way to go in order to rectify dodgy past decisions, I would hope that every day we get a little bit closer to being a more accepting nation as a whole.
Make of that what you will – as I said, I feel more than a little out of my depth!
by admin
07 Jan 2009 at 10:33
Agnes – Me too, I’m more or less talking bollocks. I don’t think you (or more appropriately I) can make vast generalizations about the ‘psyche’ of a nation.
Believe me, I’m disappointed that so much American culture has made it’s way across the Pacific as well. When I left the States I was hoping to get away from McDonalds and Wal-mart and crappy reality TV for a while. I’ve since learned that unless your willing to move to N Korea, that’s not likely to happen.
by Agnes
07 Jan 2009 at 10:46
Re: the vast generalisations – exactly! But we’d be a pretty boring lot if we didn’t have an opinion of some sort I guess.
I’m glad you didn’t head straight for Oz then – it’s good that you’ve had a wider experience before arriving back where you started, be it on the other side of the world!
I’m heading overseas sometime in the next couple of months for an unspecified amount of time, so it will be interesting to see how my opinions of my country shift as my experience widens.
Regarding TV in Australia too – slightly off topic – it’s funny. I don’t watch much TV because most of it is such dross, but it’s funny to compare a show like CSI or NCIS with it’s Aussie imitations. Not sure if you’ve ever watched City Homicide, but I find it hilarious to see how amateurish it seems when compared to the Amercian equivalents!
by Agnes
07 Jan 2009 at 10:48
Oh goodness, it must be holidays. I’d just like to point out, as a teacher and as a self-confessed apostrophe narc, that it should’ve been “its Aussie imitations”.
(and don’t worry, I too am cringing at the fact that I had to specify this in a separate comment!)
by barbara
07 Jan 2009 at 11:19
Dr O’C I wouldn’t take much notice of that poll, i think it was taken when all the old people were watching tv. If they had have polled later in the evening when the workers were home the result would have been much different. Polls can be very misleading.
by heather
07 Jan 2009 at 15:07
Um, as I am currently covered with a 1 cm of ice on everything, I can’t get past the warm beautiful photos.
La,la,la I am jealous!
by headbang8
07 Jan 2009 at 18:23
Dr. O’C.–I’m with you on that one.
Note that the 1st generation baby boomers are entering their fifties and sixties now, when they end to take a luch toward the conservative right.
The combative, angry Murdoch-style media have had their most profound effect on two countries, in particular. Guess which ones?
by JChevais
07 Jan 2009 at 19:49
Yes. One snowflake and the region was paralysed. The other night it took over two hours for me to get home from work. Madness.
by SSG
07 Jan 2009 at 20:26
do you really think British act “fluffy”? I think they act quite hostile, but then aren’t direct at all.
So they will not smile at you when you pass in the street, but nor will they tell you if you have your top on inside out or tucked your skirt into your pants while you talk to them.
Afraid of embarassing themselves and you makes a lot of people in Britain restricted. And appear cold. But really we’d love a hug if you gave us one. Or not. Maybe the cold austere brit stereotype is disappearing? Nowadays the chavs would probably shout at you if they didnt like your trainers. bah.
by kitty
07 Jan 2009 at 21:31
mmmm…. have been debating about where to post this, this site or mine, but have decided here so it’s in context with the rest.
I pretty much agree with Agnes. I’ve never been to America and I think in my entire life have had more than a passing conversation with no more than two Americans, so I may not be in a possition to comment. Having said that the day I think Australia is like America is the day I move to Russia or China or Cuba or something. It was one of my proudest moments when Starbucks went under, and if we can send McDonalds and CSI the same way I’ll run naked through the streets throwing two dollar coins in the air (I think I’m fairly safe there). I am hopefull that the new administration may make me think more highly of American politics. Maybe that’s why the election was such big news – so many of us had our fingers crossed. And lets face, American choices effect most of the world, politically at least.
As an aside, I lived in the UK – in London of all places – for nearly three years and had the most fantastic time and was warmly welcomed by my neighbours (in multiple neighbourhoods) and my co-workers. I quickly made friends there that I know I will have most my life. Yes, they don’t tell you when your knickers are hanging out, but they don’t want to embarase either your or them. They’d walk over hot coals on their tongues to help you out if they though you were really in strife. I would move back there in an instant.
by kitty
07 Jan 2009 at 21:33
PS: Physically, I think Australia looks just like mainland Greece. South Australia anyway.
by Starrlight
08 Jan 2009 at 02:24
Great pictures. I soooo miss sunshine =(
by Jessica K
08 Jan 2009 at 03:48
I really don’t have a leg to stand on in the Aus/US debate, since my knowledge of Australia is limited to what I hear from you, Arizaphale, and the Wiggles. I’ll just say that I’m glad you feel like you’ve found a home. It’s amazing how much good friends make a place feel like it’s yours.
by Jason O.
08 Jan 2009 at 04:46
Exactly right about the cars, I drove a Holden Monaro V-8 for a about a week and it was a blast.
by admin
08 Jan 2009 at 08:17
Agnes – The Aussie rip offs amuse me. But then Hollywood constantly rips itself off, so it’s just the way things are done these days.
Barbara – Yeah, that was when we first got here and I’m pretty sure it was on the morning news after most people had gone to work. That being said, there’s still no decent maternity benefits compared to Europe.
Heather – Just wait to July, you’ll get your turnaround. Although we won’t have ice.
Headbang – Baby boomers! Don’t get me started. We’re going to be paying for their retirement for the next 20 – 30 years but they won’t pay for their grandchildren to have a parent stay at home with them for any period of time. Bastards. My parents excluded
JChev – Glad to hear it’s not solely a British phenomenon. There were days when the trains were shut down due to rain. In Britain!
SSG – By fluffy, in this case, I meant friendly to your face but then brought their nails out when your back was turned. You know it to be true…
Are you invoking Cameron’s “hug a hoody” campaign?
Kitty – Woof! Wow, that’s going to require a post. But let’s focus on your statement:
“I’ve never been to America and I think in my entire life have had more than a passing conversation with no more than two Americans, so I may not be in a possition to comment.”
Yet you do.
JK – The Wiggles drive me nuts.
Jason – Yeah, the Aussies love their big engined, loud cars. Does my head in. That’s why we bought Japanese!
by Dr O'C
08 Jan 2009 at 08:36
Kitty,
Just like Australians shouldn’t be judged by Crocodile Dundee, Steve Irwin and throw another shrimp on the barbie type comments I think it is harsh that you chose to judge the US on its exports. I lived in the US for 4 years and the UK for 4 years and would have preferred to live in the US for the rest of my life rather than the UK. The people I interacted with on the West Coast and in the Mid-west were genuine and inviting. I consider myself a pretty easy going and sociable person and when AFM went to the US for three weeks I was not invited out once by my co-workers even though they knew I was by myself (I had been at my job 7 months). In the US, I was invited out to dinner the first day I started my job and several times in the first couple of weeks.
There are good and bad things about all countries, I guess it just depends on what you chose to focus on. I don’t think it is fair to make blanket statements.
by admin
08 Jan 2009 at 09:23
Wow, strange to see Dr. O’C defending the States! I think you’re like me, willing to slag off the U.S. and Americans based on our own experience, but we get riled up when someone else does it!
by admin
08 Jan 2009 at 09:24
But you stole one of my arguments for a post I’m working on!
by Agnes
08 Jan 2009 at 10:09
“Just like Australians shouldn’t be judged by Crocodile Dundee, Steve Irwin and throw another shrimp on the barbie type comments”
Yes!!!
Things sure are heating up in here…
by runsdeep
08 Jan 2009 at 10:50
Do we prefer faceless, endless identikit urban sprawl to “claustrophobic British cities”? If you ask me, that is the single most disappointing thing about Australia. True, they have the space, and a wonderful space it is, but everything’s dependent on the car and every suburb looks the same. I had expected it though.
As for the people, I have not met a great varied number, as they have either all been family members or like-minded uni folk/students… but they’re generally very open and friendly. A hint of the american “have a nice day” in shops and the like (which is ok, but don’t patronise me). Oh, and you can still get some UK food in the supermarkets. Doubt that’s doable in USA.
by admin
08 Jan 2009 at 11:03
You know, RunsDeep, I would really expect better punctuation and capitalization from an Oxford Old Boy.
As for the suburbia in Oz – does my fucking head in. That’s one of the things I did NOT miss from the States. Oh well, them’s the breaks.
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by kitty
08 Jan 2009 at 18:35
well, in Dr O’C in my defence, I don’t think I did judge the US. I just said I don’t want Australia to be like America. I don’t. I don’t want Australia to be like France either. Or Vietnam, or Argentina. If I think Australia is becoming like France I’ll move to China too (or maybe America, who knows). I want Australia to be Australian. I don’t want to drink at Starbucks, I want an Australian to make my coffee – or whatever. OK, we’re a bit like Britain, but a huge percentage of us are British, and in a couple of centuries when the ethnic mix is more broad that may change. Then we could have our own identity. It’s probably our own fault that we’re too laidback to find our own identity we nick it/have it imposed on us/a bit of both by another, more powerful country. I can see my country become more like another all the time, and I think it’s sad that we’re not proud of who we are.
And of course there’s good and bad everywhere. Having said I loved the UK I was refused service on more than one occasion because of my accent, but they were the stupid minority.
So if any Americans out there think I was having a go at them, I humbly apologise, it was not my intention what-so-ever……
by we_be_toys
09 Jan 2009 at 02:58
I met some American tourists in Wales a few years back, and frankly, I was ashamed to be lumped in with them. they were everything you said about Ugly Americans, and I couldn’t have felt less connected to them.
I think it’s heinous that Walmart and McDonalds have gotten a toehold in so many parts of the world, including my own town, but unless people refuse to shop there, they aren’t going to stop.
Great comments on this post!
by admin
09 Jan 2009 at 08:17
Kitty – The thing is that I want Australia to be like Australia here. That was kind of the original point of this post – disappointment that it is so American-ized here. No hard feelings, I hope, I’m always amazed that to me a seemingly innocuous post can get people all fired up!
We Be Toys – Yeah, that was my biggest disappointment when I got here – fucking Wal-Mart (they call it Big W here, but it’s Wal-Mart). You just can’t get away. They had it in Britain as well.
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