Because my role at the university is teaching only and we’re in between terms, I spend most of my time at job number two these days. I toddled over to the university today as I do once a week or so to make sure that I’m still getting paid and they haven’t given my office away without telling me. I was talking a bit to the receptionist in the school office and noticed that she was working on the figure that you see above.
“What on earth is that?” I asked.
Nonplussed she replied, “Directions for the toilets.”
“Directions? Are you serious?”
“We’re having some trouble with some of the international students.”
“Why is he wearing a little hat?”
“It’s not a hat, it’s his hair. I’ve only got Word to work with!”
“Maybe you should make them anatomically correct. Just to clarify what bit goes where, I mean.”
“I did, but (The Head of School) made me cut it off.”
Now bear in mind gentle readers, that this is a proper university – not Boy Z’s day care. In fact, I’m pretty sure that they have similar signs in the toilets at the misspelt day care.
Apparently in many Asian countries the porcelain god rests a but further toward the earth than what we’re used to in the Western world. Our international students, rather than modifying their behavior when faced with a lofty Western commode, have maintained the relief posture with which they’re familiar. When you think about it, if you’ve spent much time in public toilets this it’s actually not that bad an idea to get your delicates as far away from the toilet seat as possible. The problem, it seems is that our Western bogs aren’t designed to be perched upon and toilets the university wide are collapsing under new international students. Bad for the loos, bad for the kids.
Beyond the problems with the crappers, I’ve heard a lot of complaints from my fellow lecturers about the international students – largely stemming from language issues. I don’t know about the university as a whole, but in the course that I taught about 40% of the students were international. I had kids from China, Malaysia, Thailand, Singapore, Indonesia, Vietnam, Sri Lanka, India, Iraq, Japan, Ethiopia, the Congo, Lebanon and Burma in my course last term. Sometimes it does take a bit longer to get points across to the internationals, but because my job is pretty light weight, I’ve got time to take. And in a lot of ways they’re a joy to teach. Australians are known for a lot of things, but a strong work ethic isn’t one of them. The international students are at our university because they really want to be and demonstrate this by working their asses off, a refreshing change from being greeted with a course of moans after declaring that Wikipedia isn’t a valid academic source and one might actually have to open a book. The international students often have great stories as well. Most of them are recent migrants, like your underwhelming correspondent. Some of them came here with their families as refugees. Some of them came here as refugees fleeing a war in their home that my country started. It was fascinating to talk to some of these kids and get snippets of the story of their lives.
Now if we could just teach them to use the john properly.
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by JChevais
03 Feb 2009 at 21:24
Are we talking Turkish toilets here (why in the world are they called Turkish toilets? Is that a French thing (toilette turque) or are they really called that in English)?
ANYWAY! If those are the toilets that the internationals are used to using, I find it highly amusing that they’re climbing up onto the throne to do their business.
Makes me wonder what kind of havoc their landlords or flatmates are having to deal with too. Har!
by Angel
03 Feb 2009 at 21:26
I imagine language difficulties could be a huge problem for teachers, especially those teaching really technical subjects. I’d never thought about it.
I love meeting people from other nations. I want to learn as much as I can in this life, and other cultures have so much to teach. Although, having said that, I don’t think I could ever get used to the Korean loo.
I love the receptionist’s graphics. Simple and to the point.
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by Agnes
03 Feb 2009 at 21:31
“Australians are known for a lot of things, but a strong work ethic isn’t one of them.”
When researching various teaching agencies in the UK, every single one of them at some point has mentioned how highly valued the Australian work ethic is in the UK.
I thought it was weird too.
This makes me think that either our work ethic here in Oz is in fact excellent…or the UK work ethic stinks by comparison.
Thoughts?
(oh, and hilarious story about the loos!)
by admin
03 Feb 2009 at 21:52
Agnes – definitely the latter. The Brits are lazy bastards.
by admin
03 Feb 2009 at 21:56
You know I’m just trying to rile y’all up?
by bluestreak
03 Feb 2009 at 21:59
Hilarious. I might try posture #2 here in Spain where toilets are rained on with piss and there are no available seat covers or even toilet paper for that matter. Usually it´s an exercise in quadracep stamina, but I´d never thought to STAND on the toilet. Genius!
As far as the international students go, for the most part, when I was in graduate school I was impressed by most of the international students in my program. Even with a language barrier they never seemed to miss a beat and were quite eloquent in expressing themselves and nothing seemed to escape them, something that doesn´t describe me to the least here in Spain after ten years with my Spanish. The most commonplace conversations can fly right over my head, I can´t imagine trying to follow twenty people discussing the nuances of postmodern critical theory. There were a few chinese students though that some of my collegues and I speculated as to how in god´s name they got into the university when their levels of English were in no way at the level of being able to follow any one of the graduate seminar classes. We often wondered if there wasn´t some sort of chinese mafia running the admissions. They could barely hold their own. They usually did alright in stats though.
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by headbang8
03 Feb 2009 at 22:13
@ Agnes- A strong work ethic and a strong study ethic are two different things. It’s a widely-held prejudice that intellectual pursuits aren’t actually “work”. True?
@AFM–you may recall that I taught in your institution some (now almost) 30 years ago–in the Language Lab, and my field was ESL. Our students came from an even more diverse background.
Guess what? Our admin assistant busied herself with the same sign, using a hand-drawn figure and Letraset. I got into a lot of trouble trying to explain this concept during our regular (gender-segregated) Dirty Words in English lesson.
My old boss can tell you some amusing stories. So can Miss Betty, who once accompanied me to a student shindig.
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by mjrc
03 Feb 2009 at 23:31
i, too, would think they would straddle the commode, not stand on it!
you know what question this begs, of course–does the water in the toilets really swirl in a clockwise direction (as opposed to counter-clockwise in the northern hemisphere)? sorry to lower the level of the discourse here, but this has always been a bit of a burning question.
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by Father Muskrat
04 Feb 2009 at 00:11
That’s funny. I thought the little figure was being admonished for trying to get a better view of the person in the stall beside him.
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by Southern (in)Sanity
04 Feb 2009 at 01:54
Wow. That is pretty bad when you have to give diagrams to use proper use of toilets, huh?
by The Unbearable Banishment
04 Feb 2009 at 02:06
What do you suppose might happen if they came across a bidet?
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by Nathan B.
04 Feb 2009 at 02:12
Drinking fountain?
Sorry, bubbler.
by Theresa B
04 Feb 2009 at 02:13
While I applaud the effort, doesn’t it look like the seated guy is in fact sitting on the closed lid of the toilet? Seems like a possible point of confusion…
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by Joe
04 Feb 2009 at 02:16
Am I the only one that would be worried about the splash when… Uhhh… conducting certain business while standing on the pot?
by Here In Franklin
04 Feb 2009 at 02:24
I have the same problem with showers in Europe–especially in older inns and hotels. Good thing my engineer husband can usually figure them out.
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by Jud
04 Feb 2009 at 02:35
Years ago when in college I was a Resident Advisor. We had student apartments, not traditional dorms. Normally we stuff 5-6 folks in a 3 bedroom, 2 bath cinderblock apartment. The toilet issue for us was the use of toilet paper, as some students tended to use a rag, then hang it from the shower rod, and reuse as needed.
The only other big use with the bathrooms was teaching students how to properly ice down a keg in the tub without it getting stuck.
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by courtney
04 Feb 2009 at 03:49
Oh, man. I’m rolling with laughter over here.
You’ve got to feel bad for the international students who actually broke the toilets by standing on them. It’s bad enough to be in a new country with a new language, but to go and break the toilet too? That’s just too much.
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by we_be_toys
04 Feb 2009 at 04:23
Great graphics – how come we never get good stuff like that in our universities?
This reminds me of a post a friend of mine put up recently. she’s in India right now, and apparently they not only stand up to “go potty” (I have kids, back off man!) (would “winkle” and “poo-poo” be better?) but there’s no “terlet” paper (and I’m from NY) for the grand finale. Not exactly an inducement to go there, for me, anyway.
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by Sherrie
04 Feb 2009 at 04:26
In fairness, when you have your first case of food poisoning in Asia you really really REALLY wish the toilets came with directions.
Have you seen this video yet? It teaches Japanese kids to use the squat toilet, maybe we need one for our toilet as well!
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=FIqP8vA6l50&feature=related
The translation is a little loose…….
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by April
04 Feb 2009 at 04:30
We need that sign in the women’s room at my work. Not only are toilet seats not designed to be stood upon, taking that posture leads to a lot of messes in the bathroom. We call these people “The Tinklers.” There are quite a few Asian post-docs/techs/students on our floor. The housekeeping did eventually put up signs asking people to keep the toilet seats clean and dry. They helped for a while. The ladies in my lab are always warning each other which stalls to avoid. It’s really gross! Interesting to know that this happens elsewhere.
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by mongoliangirl
04 Feb 2009 at 05:19
This reminds me of 2 things:
1) Being at an international conference that had gotten off track and being admonished by the French Delegate that, “We must fuck us! We must fuck us!” He, of course, meant ‘focus’, but I thought his actual pronounciation was a great idea for becoming once again unified in our efforts.
2) Stealing toilet paper from the campus bathrooms when I was getting my BA because I was so damn broke!
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by mjrc
04 Feb 2009 at 05:58
why is my comment awaiting moderation? is the water-swirling-question off limits?
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by Not Afraid To Use It
04 Feb 2009 at 05:58
Ah. A stroll down memory lane. The university I taught ESL at was Asian-heavy, and we made similar signs. I do have to say that they have the better end of it. If the worst they do is pee on the seat, it is better than the American students who fall into the Asian toilets. Who’s laughing now?
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by Andrew
04 Feb 2009 at 06:11
I cracked up when I first read this because I thought it was a joke and then re-read it and it made sense. Then I laughed even harder.
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by barbara
04 Feb 2009 at 08:10
Maybe the aussie kids study efforts are not as good as the internationals because they all have part time jobs they have to go to as well. My two kids both went to uni and held down parts time jobs. They both worked damn hard to get their degrees. The international students only have to study, and the good stats that some chinese students get even though their english is bad is often due to paying others to do their work for them.
by Agnes
04 Feb 2009 at 08:37
Headbang – hadn’t thought of that, good point.
Joe – I hadn’t considered that until you mentioned it…thanks!
by admin
04 Feb 2009 at 10:44
Jchev – I think they’re used to the same type of toilets that you run across in Paris, but I’m not sure why they clamber up on our thrones.
Angel – All of the students have to have a basic understanding of English and sometimes it is just that – basic/. But it’s not that big a deal, just takes more time sometimes.
Bluestreak – You brought to mind a good point – it’s not easy to learn English, especially if you’re coming from a background with a different alphabet and a language with no similarity. Like it’s pretty easy to learn Italian if you’re a native Spanish speaker. It’s pretty easy to learn French if you’re a native English speaker. However – Arabic to English – not so easy.
Headbang – Good to know that it’s a recurring problem! I don’t envy ESL teachers.
MJRC – I’m going to go flush the toilet and see… Sorry, inconclusive, we have these water saving toilets and they don’t drain in the same way as the ones in the States.
Father Muskrat – It could go either way, couldn’t it?
Southern – I would have thought so.
TUB – God knows. You don’t see a lot of them down here though.
Nathan – What the hell’s a bubbler?
Theresa – I know! I thought the same thing. Could make things worse! Much worse!
Joe – That’s part of the problem. I could never figure out why our loos were getting so nasty. Now I know.
HIF – God I know. I actually had a problem in Germany because they have these space age showers that it took me a good half an hour to figure out how to turn on.
Jud – That’s frickin’ disgusting. Was that at Auburn? Because then it sort of makes sense.
Courtney – I know. How bad would you feel!
NATUI – Well, I don’t think I would ever fall into an Asian toilet, so me I guess.
Andrew – It’s the seriousness that makes it hilarious!
Barbara – You’ve caught me out in a gross generalization. Typical.
by suzer
04 Feb 2009 at 11:05
Those pictures are perfect. I’ve heard horror stories about people losing their footing and feet ending up in the bowl, so apparently, they are necessary. On the other end, when in China, one of my travel mates lost her shorts in the hole in the ground/toilet…not good either. And for a bit more humour, when I was at the local swimming pool the other day, I just went into one of the two toilet stalls that were just inside the door, and thought that they must have had children in mind when they designed these thrones, as they were so low to the ground. Later on, I decided to investigate further, and found there were about 10 normal toilets around the corner. Whoops…
by admin
04 Feb 2009 at 11:23
We Be Toys – After watching Slumdog Millionaire, that doesn’t surprise me.
Sherrie – LOVE that video!
April – I reckon it’s probably worse for you gals, we only have to sit down occasionally.
Mongola – I’ve done the TP theft myself!
MJRC – I’ve no idea why Wordpress flagged you.
by Nathan B.
04 Feb 2009 at 13:29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bubbler
by heather
04 Feb 2009 at 16:00
Hmm.
1. Bubbler is a Northeastern Wisconsin term: my hometown is Green Bay.
2. International students can be difficult. I am finishing a M.S. in Language Education and we have many, many Asian students. We get along, but there are times when proficiency levels constrict discussions. However, it is my job to deal with it and having been a novice in 5 different languages I am not one to complain.
3. Thanks for the heads up as to the messes in the loos (I worked in a British school in Portugal).
Cheers
by kitty
04 Feb 2009 at 22:34
Having lived in countries where they don’t speak my langauge (France) let alone use my alphabet (China), anyone who gets it together enough to leave their friends and families behind, to struggle through courses they don’t really understand (we have students who get their course work months in advance so they can get to grips with the English), where they can’t buy a decent soybean for love nor money, and then be struck with these weird toilets is a total legend as far as I can see. Where I worked in China (a really rural village) the toilet was a hole in the ground. Literally. You used it until it was full and then someone dug a new one. Thank god I was only there in winter, I can’t imagine the smell in the hight of a Chinese summer……..
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by Teri
05 Feb 2009 at 02:37
Funny story. I taught some international students at the high school level in the states. I would agree, the work ethic and stories they bring can be inspiring. Not all had a strong work ethic. And not all had harrowing stories. But some did. And it was a gift to be able to teach such students. My first class had a strong group of Hmong girls from Thailand. Unlike many of their peers, they were determined to finish school and not get married/pregnant so very young. And they worked so hard. One wanted to be a police officer. Many talked about dealing with poverty and contaminated water leading to worms and other such things. It puts to shame the laziness that comes with abundance.
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by Robin
05 Feb 2009 at 12:53
That?! Was the funniest f’ing thing I’ve read in a while. Maybe I got more out of it being an ESL teacher? TOO funny!
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05 Feb 2009 at 12:55
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by Gypsy
06 Feb 2009 at 01:33
I was once told that that position (with knees bent up and squatting) is actually ideal for, um, evacuating. I haven’t tried it, though.
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by maggie, dammit
06 Feb 2009 at 01:44
My friend Frank won an award for writing about this very same thing. Check out the article, it’s worth it:
http://www.worldhum.com/features/how-to/use_a_squat_toilet_20060923/
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by Jud
06 Feb 2009 at 05:59
No, not Auburn. I spent 4 years at the other school in the state.
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by Jill/Twipply Skwood
06 Feb 2009 at 13:26
You know, I got to read this one before I had the chance to comment. But what I’ve been wondering in between is whether people that squat on the toilet seats like that picture are less constipated.
Because you know how they say that if a woman in labor does that kind of yoga pose it’s easier to pop out the baby? So maybe it would be easier to pop out poop too. *shrug shrug* Who can really tell about these things after all…
(Is it actually possible to have an inappropriate comment if the topic of the post is toileting? Just thought I’d try…)
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by Jessica K
07 Feb 2009 at 13:56
heehee That’s funny. One of the blogs I read on a semi-regular basis is an Asian girl at university in Australia! I have sometimes wondered how she was able to keep up with a lecture, just because you can tell that english is not her first language. She studies her booty off, though, that’s for sure! The way she talks, she lives at the library most of the time. That wasn’t exactly my style in college.
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