
I don’t write much about politics these days – too stressful – but for those of you that are new around here, I’m a pretty liberal guy. In fact, I’m a committed socialist – and proud of it. One of the reasons that I can’t imagine moving back to the States in the near future is that I don’t fancy going into debt to pay hospital bills or college tuition. I’m firm in my belief that the State has an obligation to offer a helping hand to its citizens in times of need – I don’t believe that any other organization can do so without prejudice. Equally, I believe that as a fairly well-off citizen it is my obligation to pay taxes in order to fund this safety net.
Now, this will seem like a pretty drastic topical change, but bear with me. I’m pretty selective about the source of my news. I can’t stand most television news – it’s all just a bit artificial and saccharine – and as far as I can tell there is not a decent newspaper to be had in all of Australia. Fortunately, in the internet era, I can chose my favorite media sources – newspaper websites, blogs, podcasts and The Daily Show.
The risk with acknowledging only selected, pre-screened media sources is that I’ll get a quite insular perspective on the world. That I’ll only hear the liberal voices. That I’ll have a skewed perspective on what’s going on in the world and why. To try to ensure that I hear both sides of a story, I try to find centrist and right wing voices. KCRW’s “Left, Right and Center” is a nicely balanced radio program. Dan Carlin gives a type of libertarian perspective in his “Common Sense” podcast. The right-leaning Politico is a decent political blog.
But even these moderate voices don’t cover the political gamut. I really want to hear from people with whom I disagree – I need some ‘real conservatives’. Until recently, I had a bit of a thing for the podcast of Bill O’Reilly’s radio program. Sure, O’Reilly claims to be a ‘moderate’ or an ‘Independent’ but I always thought that there was a nudge and a wink implied. Either that or the man is insane. He makes most congressional Republicans look like pinkos. Moderate compared to what? O’Reilly can go on wingnut rants that would make most liberals faint. I lapped it up. And every once in a while, O’Reilly can make a pretty good argument. So much so that rarely, and disturbingly, I agree with him.

But O’Reilly recently got the sack from the world of talk radio, leaving a deafening media silence from my right. Since then, I’ve been trying to find a podcast or two from the far right to fill that void. In the last couple of weeks two talk radio jocks – Michael Savage and Mark Levin – have been taking up space on my iPod. Listening to these two fellows I’ve come to realize that I owe Bill O’Reilly an apology – he’s most definitely a moderate.
Savage and Levin are the kind of conservatives that I thought only existed in the imagination of hard left bloggers – the bogeymen of the Clintons’ ‘vast right-wing conservative’. They are angry ranters, tiny balls of fury yelling hate down their microphones. They hate Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, ‘liberals’, homosexuals, foreigners, Europe, and on and on. They see the world in black and white terms. Their world view is conveniently free of subtlety or delicacy. Things are right or wrong and anyone who disagrees with them is the enemy. These hosts will latch on to a piece of minutiae and, regardless of facts, weave an elaborate angry rant to discredit their ‘enemies’.
Most of their callers are also angry men (and less frequently women) who agree with them and sing their prasies – feed their narcissism – referring to the hosts as ‘Dr.’ Savage and ‘The Great One’. When an occasional caller who disagrees with the host slips through, they are abused. In fact, there’s a formula. The caller speaks. When the host realizes that they are a hated ‘liberal’, the caller’s audio is cut off while the host rants. Then, briefly, the caller’s audio is brought up usually in mid-sentence and then quickly cut again. Repeat. The effect is that the caller appears to be spouting random, inane phrases. The host then calls them names – ’schmuck’, ‘idiot’, ‘dummy’ – and hangs up. Further evidence of the ‘idiocy’ of the enemy.
This name calling is a theme. It reminds me of grade school. Savage has hateful nicknames for fellow hosts – who he seems to despise as much as liberals. He refers to women in misogynistic terms – ’sluts’ and ‘whores’. Levin calls Barack Obama ‘Milhouse’ and constantly refers to him as ‘dummy’. Media outlets with whom they disagree are the New York Slimes, the Washington Compost and National Pubic Radio. There’s a nasty nickname for anyone with whom the host disagrees. The host is a ‘thinker’, an ‘intellectual’. Those who disagree – even true intellectuals – are ‘morons’, ‘idiots’ or ‘dummies’.
But above all is the anger. These men dine on rage, have scraps of outrage stuck in between their teeth. They seethe, they stew, they shout and they encourage their listeners to do the same. They consume ire and excrete fear. These droppings of fear are what they leave with their legions of furious fans.
They’re angry little men, screaming vitriol out into the ether and to be honest, they both frighten and disgust me. Is this really the loyal opposition? Is this what the right is about – xenophobia, misogyny, homophobia, racism? Hatred, anger and fear?
I feel a little dirty after listening to these guys.
Maybe I’m a naive optimist, but I have to believe that there’s a sane and intelligent conservative commentator out there. Someone with whom I disagree, but can argue without name calling and shouting Someone intelligent, subtle and entertaining.
So, I’ve got a plea to my right-leaning readers – and I know I have a few – who can I listen to? Where are the sane voices from the right?
Or are there any?
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by Jamie Holts
14 Apr 2009 at 15:30
Thanks for posting the article, was certainly a great read!
by Jamie Holts
14 Apr 2009 at 15:33
Would you be interested in exchanging blogrolls links with my site? Please email me if you are interested
by flutter
14 Apr 2009 at 15:52
Savage is a total whackjob, but I wonder…why do you want to listen when you clearly disagree? It might benefit you more to have a discussion with someone who leans right.
by admin
14 Apr 2009 at 15:56
I guess that because I’m an academic and I live abroad I don’t hear much from the far right. It’s very insulating. You can’t really be truly informed unless I know all sides of the story. Also I like to hear what they’re saying because occasionally they have good points. Very occasionally
by Jamie Holts
14 Apr 2009 at 16:17
I discovered your homepage by coincidence.
Very interesting posts and well written.
I will put your site on my blogroll.
by Noble Savage
14 Apr 2009 at 18:31
They’re angry because liberalism and progressiveness threaten the many layers of privilege they possess as powerful white men living in a capitalistic and free market democracy in a Christian, Western nation. Women, foreigners, socialists….they are all threats to their dominance. The closer we inch to anything resembling equality, the more hateful their invective will be. They are scared, plain and simple. Personally, I have no interest in hearing the opinions of men such as these. They cannot be reasoned with and are completely unwilling to learn anything from those who think differently to them. I refuse to contribute to their audience numbers or popularity, inflating their already massive egos. Besides which, it’s bad for my health to listen to diatribe like this — makes my blood pressure skyrocket.
Good luck finding some new right-wing views that perhaps aren’t as hateful and prejudiced as Savage and co.
Noble Savages last blog post..Spinster’s Got Talent
by Angel
14 Apr 2009 at 20:15
You’ve just perfectly described the reasons why conservatives/moderates are looked upon as being evil. By nature, we’re a very opinionated lot so the extremists among us surely enjoy running their mouths much louder than they should. And because of those few, we’re all tagged with their insanities. O’Reilly isn’t quite the moderate he thinks he is, but compared to Coulter and the rest of them, he’s practically a liberal! It’s humiliating to be catagorized with some of these people.
You hit on every single reason why I don’t really listen to anyone anymore. The anger on both sides is just too much. Liberals are just as mouthy, you know.
If you have a good selection on both sides, I’d be interested in the list. Like you, when I do pay attention, I like hearing both sides.
Angels last blog post.."I would love to coach there someday… " (but I’m not wearing those damn flipflops)
by The Unbearable Banishment
14 Apr 2009 at 21:07
I would LOVE a nicely balanced forum to glean my news from. You won’t find that here in the U.S. Just a lot of fist shaking. I think the anger on the right is because they’re poor losers. They wish ill on the President and the country just to make a political point. Have you read David Brooks in the OpEd pages of the New York Times? He’s kind of right-ish without the bile.
The Unbearable Banishments last blog post..news flash: New York Yankee fans are sodomized by management
by Southern (in)Sanity
14 Apr 2009 at 23:08
You are exactly right about Savage and Levin. However, I think the name-calling and insulting comes from both sides.
Just look at the comments above and how some folks refer to conservatives/those who lean to the right.
by Jacob
14 Apr 2009 at 23:46
I can’t handle conservative talk. I’m actually a liberal with libertarian tendencies, but I don’t think that has much to do with it. I have conservative relatives (my uncle Mike) and a friend who’s on the Republican side of the libertarians from what I can tell that when they talk this stuff it doesn’t bother me. It’s not that my like of them buffers my opinion, but the fact that they actually sound intelligent and make cogent arguments. Usually, the reason I disagree is some entirely different starting point or basic value. But these are two very intelligent men not try to out shock jock anyone else.
Conservative talk show hosts are just going for the shock value. Most of what they say is idiotic even when what they’re arguing for isn’t entirely stupid.
I agree with TV news though. I was over that crap when I was still in high school. I’ve been reading the BBC News online religiously since about the time I was 16 and recently added the NYT RSS feed to keep up better with domestic news. It’s hard to beat the BBC for English language international news, though.
Jacobs last blog post..If I Die before I Wake…
by SSG
15 Apr 2009 at 00:26
You say “They are angry ranters, tiny balls of fury yelling hate down their microphones. They hate Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, ‘liberals’, homosexuals, foreigners, Europe, and on and on.”
are they allowed to say such things on a (public) radio?
Can people really be xeno and homophobic like that in public? Is it a tax funded radio?
I like to hear both sides as long as my side wins.
Nah, if I heard the sorta crap you mention I would be throwing my radio out the window, you cannot be serious????
by Cat
15 Apr 2009 at 00:54
I watch The News Hour on PBS. They have panels with people of opposing view points, but it doesn’t melt into arguing and name calling. Although I’m pretty liberal, I enjoy the right/left commentary they have on Friday Nights which usually features David Brooks and Mark Shields. Brooks seems to be smart, thoughtful and not out for the show.
Cats last blog post..I Think I’m Turning Japanese…
by ohthatgirl
15 Apr 2009 at 00:57
I have to agree with Angel and Southern (in)Sanity…it comes from both sides.
As a moderate myself, I find Bill O’Reilly to be alright…but he can do that ‘i’m going to yell over you until you shut up because you disagree with me’ thing a lot and it’s maddening. I have never listened to the two conservative shows that you mentioned in this post, but they sound dreadfull.
The Daily Show is great. I think it’s obvious which side he is pulling for, but he keeps it light and sees the hilarity on both sides (and I am just about sick from all the Bush scrutiny over the years, so it’s nice to see that someone in the media can “poke fun” at both sides without getting hyperactively fanatical).
The way that I find to be the most successful in forming opinions of our country’s leaders is by actually listening to their speeches and interviews and hearing what they have to say and what they actually DO. Straight from the horse’s mouth, if you will. I don’t really trust any media source completely with showing me the ‘correct’ political path.
I think the biggest problem is not with conservatives or lieberals…it’s with people who latch on to an idea so strongly that they are blind to anything that may change their mind. This happens on both sides.
I wouldn’t necessarily have any shows to offer that are taking strong poilitical sides, but I love to listen to ‘This American Life’ and ‘Radio Lab’. They both offer a very analytical view of our world.
ohthatgirls last blog post..should be working but….whatever
by Carolyn Online
15 Apr 2009 at 01:02
That was written so well. I listen to them as much as I can stomach but then if there’s name calling I have to stop because it’s just so sophomoric. I don’t have any ideas for you but I think it’s great you’re trying to get both sides.
Carolyn Onlines last blog post..I’m totally living like the Amish here in Atlanta except I can still drive a car. And I don’t think zippers are the work of Satan.
by Jason O.
15 Apr 2009 at 01:18
Freeman, I wouldn’t worry from your perspective. The strongest GOP internal candidate right now is Newt Gingrich, who would be destroyed in a general election.
Jason O.s last blog post..The Plot Thickens…
by courtney
15 Apr 2009 at 02:03
Good for you for seeking out perspectives other than your own, disturbing as they may be. I can’t handle listening to those guys — it does bad things to my blood pressure to hear such hatred being spewed about. I get enough conservative propaganda thrown at me from my family anyway to keep my rampant liberalism in check.
What I don’t understand is that there are otherwise normal, even intelligent people who listen to those pundits and think they’re great. My dad, for example, is a really smart guy, but he LOVES Rush and Boortz and all those guys. How anyone can listen to that and take it seriously is beyond me.
I think pundits are an absolute blight on our society. They seek out things to complain about and then present the lies in a way that appeals to people’s competitive sensibilities so they’ll become so party loyal that everything is black and white — I’m right, they’re wrong. It’s no wonder nothing gets done around here — people go in with the attitude that just because someone has an R or a D after their name, they’re stupid and wrong. Doesn’t matter what the issue is; the other party is wrong. It’s become just like sports. There’s no real reason to hate the other team, you just do it because you think that’s what you’re supposed to do. Harmless in sports, but dangerous in real life. A BLIGHT, I say.
Whew. Climbing off my soapbox now.
courtneys last blog post..Taking Over the Internet, One Blog At a Time
by Gypsy
15 Apr 2009 at 02:40
I can’t handle any of them. I’d like to have more well-rounded information, but not at the expense of my blood pressure.
Gypsys last blog post..Tending
by maggie, dammit
15 Apr 2009 at 03:16
I think you’re automatically screwed when you look to TV and/or radio because you can’t escape the sensationalism factor. They’re not news broadcasts on either side; they’re commercials.
by Here In Franklin
15 Apr 2009 at 04:06
There’s a great (well, great if you’re a liberal) article in the latest Vanity Fair about Rush Limbaugh. It points out that his average listener is 67, which is true for all political talk radio.
Here In Franklins last blog post..Easter Conversations (not a post about religion)
by rassles
15 Apr 2009 at 04:50
Dennis Miller. Everyone knows Dennis Miller, but I feel like his show gets dismissed.
He’s socially liberal. Well, kind of. He believes everyone has the right to a civil union, but marriage is a sacred aspect of religion, and it should be up to the individual church.
Aaaaaannnnd everything else swings to the right.
And believe me, his show is way more entertaining than his comedy. I am liberal as all get out, and I really, really, really enjoy listening to him.
rassless last blog post..That One Time
by rassles
15 Apr 2009 at 04:53
And: Rush Limbaugh is a git, but the man is hilarious sometimes, and then I feel guilty for enjoying him, regardless of how much I disagree.
rassless last blog post..That One Time
by mjrc
15 Apr 2009 at 07:04
my neighbor is pretty darn conservative politically (less so socially) but we can argue politics without any rancor. he told me he likes to listen to bloomberg radio for fairly balanced presentation. they seem to focus a lot on the economy and money, but their podcasts are more wide-ranging.
http://www.bloomberg.com/tvradio/podcast/index.html
i have to say i sort of agree with maggie, dammit, when she says most tv/radio news is sensationalistic. it’s very hard to find truly unbiased information.
mjrcs last blog post..The Walking Wounded
by heather
15 Apr 2009 at 14:02
It took me a while to get here! I am also a pink straight through socialist, it happens if you live abroad.
We read the sides here on the ranch. I like The Economist for a rightish view.
I live in the middle of radio talk show territory and it is hard to reason with people that listen to right wing pundits. The left (normally because of public funding) is forced to hear an argument, e.g. NPR. However, those shows are commercial and they can tune people out and that is the real problem.
heathers last blog post..Pretty. Please.
by NATUI
15 Apr 2009 at 14:30
I really enjoyed this post today. Well-written, and I am very interested in the results of your survey. It is always good to learn of new venues of information.
by Teri
16 Apr 2009 at 00:17
You have the patience of a saint for listening to these guys. I can’t stand it. My parents listen to this Right Wing kind of ranting. It makes me cringe. I don’t know what the answer is. It’s frustrating about American Politics. I really thought (naively-I can’t spell anything) that after Obama was elected we might have some real discourse. I was hoping that the right would be willing to talk. I don’t know what I was thinking. This kind of thing disgusts me.
And you know, I’m a Lefty, for sure. But I don’t seem to see the same kind of vitriolic hatred spewing from the left. Yes, we don’t like the Right very much. We disagree. And sometimes the word moron will come up. We weren’t very nice to Bush. But, come on. It’s not like what you describe and what I’ve heard from the Right Wing Talk Radio Pundit Garbage Machine. As I get older, I find myself dabbling in the middle and getting a little cynical about some Leftist programs, etc. But, it would be nice if there were some reason on the other side. From my view, there isn’t much of that.
Anyway, I agree with the sentiments. And I applaud your efforts to look for both sides. I should do more of that. My patience is thin.
Teris last blog post..Baptismal Pictures
by headbang8
16 Apr 2009 at 00:55
I wish I could be a right winger, but that option is closed off to me. I’m a homosexual.
They simply will not have me. No matter how much I agree with them on the ineffectiveness of gun control and the insanity of ultra PC speech.
The lefties, though, will at least give me a seat at the table, and hear me out. So, I’m a lefty. But it wasn’t really my call.
See you at the waterfront, comerade.
headbang8s last blog post..Interview 2009. The Barfhof.
by headbang8
16 Apr 2009 at 00:56
I’ve just looked at the pictures. I even resemble these guys. Scary.
headbang8s last blog post..Interview 2009. The Barfhof.
by Matthew
16 Apr 2009 at 01:52
I don’t listen to much talk radio, or any politic shows anymore (except Daily show…damn is it funny).
I think conservative shows need to heed the advice from Stewert…pace your rage. It’s a long stretch to the midterm election.
As for conservatives, I do like David Brooks, but I don’t think he has a podcast. Just a weekly column at the New York Times (so he’s moderately conservative). I don’t know any others. At least none come to mind.
by April
16 Apr 2009 at 03:46
I have family members who are this sort of conservative and we just have to avoid politics all together to avoid fights. Growing up my step-dad listened to a lot of Rush Limbaugh; when we’d go on car trips, at home, bought books, the whole nine yards. This pretty much made me hate any radio with talking. I’ve warmed to NPR over many years, but I still prefer my radio to play music. I guess I’m scarred for life.
by Damon
16 Apr 2009 at 07:01
Wow MR. AFM you must have intercepted my wife’s brainwaves all the way from the States as she’s so incredibly tired of listening to Sirius-XM 166, American Right. In fact, she just mentioned the other day that I need to listen to and read more about the liberal point of view…perhaps I do.
I don’t know where the majority of your readers hail from but I personally am not interested in Socialism, and neither are millions of us in the United States who work hard in our chosen fields, create new technologies, and take on the risk of opening a new business.
Why should we be punished for hard work and success with higher taxes? Why should the top 20% pay 70% of the total federal taxes? The redistribution of wealth creates a disincentive by an ever growing percentage of the population not to put their best foot forward. Failure no longer means try harder…it means “that’s right, I have a safety net….the government will provide for me and my family.”
Conservatives are often criticized for being too loud, too mean or too narrow-minded. Not true, yes sometimes they tell someone something he/she doesn’t want to hear. We believe in the Founding Fathers who wrote the Constitution to stand the test of time and shouldn’t be manipulated or ignored because it’s out of touch with the times. We believe in the free market because it works. Would the IPOD have been invented IF there wasn’t the prospect of a profit? NO.
I’d be curious to see how Socialism has been successful in Great Britain or Australia? How much tax do you pay in comparison to citizens of the United States? How does your Healthcare compare?
Damons last blog post..Stay-At-Home Dad article
by Beth
16 Apr 2009 at 07:48
I consider myself a moderate conservative. I lean conservative but I’m far from being “crazy”. I hate most conservative pundits and am praying that somewhere within the Republican party there is somebody who is sane. I haven’t seen that person yet — at least not publicly.
I don’t watch Fox News, but I also don’t watch other mainstream media outlets. I like NPR and I like to read the London Times. I read my local paper (The Dallas Morning News) and I follow MSNBC sometimes.
I live in Texas so every third person I know is conservative. Ironically, I also work as a professor and my husband works in advertising so even though we live in the bible belt most of our daily contact is with the most liberal people in this state.
If you are looking for intelligent, conservative talk — well, I don’t think it exists.
Beths last blog post..The F-Bomb
by Katie Lauren
16 Apr 2009 at 12:39
“Savage is a total whackjob, but I wonder…why do you want to listen when you clearly disagree?”
The above is a quote from an earlier comment and I couldn’t disagree more. I have always felt that it is MORE important to listen to the side you disagree with than the one you do agree with. I don’t need someone patting me on the back and validating the ideas I have, I need the other side to challenge those ideas. It’s very hard to argue a point when you don’t know where the opponent is coming from, and extremely easy if you not only know where he is coming from but know what he is going to say before he even says it.
Katie Laurens last blog post..It’s At Times Like This I Couldn’t Be More Proud
by admin
16 Apr 2009 at 13:25
NS – You’re right. I hear a lot of fear in their diatribes. These two in particular are rooted in an ideal of America (TM) circa 1950 and are threatened by anything that deviates from that. Fear and anger are really the same emotion and I guess that’s where it comes from.
Angel – I’m as opinionated as anyone, but I don’t generally resort to name calling. It’s kind of sophomoric. That’s where I don’t understand these guys. Anger, sure. I was angry from 2001 – 2008. But can’t you construct an argument without mocking those that you don’t agree with?
TUB – Brooks is pretty good. So is Gingrich for that matter. I’ve had a soft spot for Newt since he stopped spouting family values. Getting caught in hypocrisy does good things for some people. Neither have podcasts unfortunately.
SIS – Nobody’s used any derisive nicknames in the comments. OK, Savage as a ‘whackjob’ – but have you listened to the guy? He is a little, um, off kilter.
Jacob – BBC is pretty good, but they get on my nerves a bit. The same as any TV news. Britain has some damn fine papers though and Radio 4 has exceptional news coverage.
SSG – It ain’t public radio, it’s commercial.
Cat – I get the podcast of Lehrer’s show and Shields and Brooks is one of my favorite segments!
Oh That – First of all, I love This American Life – fantastic radio. And you’re right about the blindness, that’s the problem with people on the hard right or hard left. O’Reilly’s funny because he was saner on his radio program than he is on TV. Maybe he got cancelled on radio because he wasn’t nutty enough.
Carolyn – Thanks.
Jason – I’m not worried about electoral issues, that’s sorted for the next couple of years. I just want to hear the thoughts of my friends on the right without being horrified while doing so. I like the new Newt.
Courtney – You’re right, pundits on either side are expert at glossing over the grey in favor of black or white. A blight you say?
Gypsy – Most of the time I laugh, but sometimes I do feel my blood pressure creeping up.
Maggie – I agree on TV, but a lot of radio is good. Unfortunately it’s usually the non-commercial radio.
HIF – It’s definitely an aging demographic, but they still vote. And own guns.
Rassles – You have to pay to listen to Rush’s show and I’m just not that keen. I’m listening to Dennis Miller right now and am impressed so far!
MJRC – I’ll check out Bloomberg. Thanks for that!
Heather – That public/commercial distinction is a big deal, no?
Teri – Olberman and Maher are the left wing equivalents I guess and I find them as offensive even though I agree with a lot of what they have to say.
Headbang – Come on, there are plenty of gays in the far right. You would just have to go back in the closet! Actually, I reckon Savage in particular protests a bit too much if you know what I’m saying.
Matthew – The Daily Show is exceptional and the right-wingers go on and on about it, but I don’t think Stewart is as vitriolic as the Talk guys.
April – My family and I can’t talk politics anymore either.
Damon – I feel like I owe you a proper response but today is a busy day. I will answer your last two questions: Less than you do and outstanding. Specifically on the tax front, check out this post: http://www.afreeman.org/2008/07/25/one-for-you-nineteen-for-me/
It’s a myth being propagated by the right wing and insurance and pharma companies that socialized medicine is expensive and poor quality. Because the U.S. spends such an obscene amount of money on ‘defense’ your taxes are as high or higher than mine. If I want to see a doctor I can generally get in the same day. If I have to get a prescription filled it is heavily subsidized. If, god forbid, I had to have surgery I MAY have to wait a little while, but if it’s life threatening they’ll sort it out. And when its done? No bill, no copay, no insurance premiums. Dr. O’C went for her 20 week ultrasound – they were using the newest 4D technology and it was absolutely free.
You guys are getting screwed and I hope that you wake up and realize it pretty soon.
Oh, and I know your wife is an MD and one of the concerns of some doctors is that they won’t make a decent living. Doctors live very comfortably in both the UK and Australia.
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by kitty
16 Apr 2009 at 20:07
I could make some serious statment about the health care comment (as an Australian and former UK resident – and having worked in the public health service in both). But as my knoweldge of the American system is limited basically to ER and MASH, I’ll leave it to you AFM.
I cannae wait!
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by arizaphale
16 Apr 2009 at 21:44
“Is this what the right is about – xenophobia, misogyny, homophobia, racism? Hatred, anger and fear?”
Errrr…yes. Remember Adolf?
Sorry to be flippant. I nearly stopped reading the comments after the Noble Savage as I felt it summed things up quite well but I was glad I didn’t as Damon’s was another eyebrow raiser.
“We believe in the free market because it works.”
Hellllooooooooo?????????????
I am politically naive but my meagre understanding leads me to believe that extremism at either end is uncomfortable and dangerous.
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by Jud
17 Apr 2009 at 01:01
I find it difficult to listen to diatribes from the left or the right. I suppose if there is one person I read, but don’t always agree with from a conservative standpoint, it would be George F. Will. I also enjoyed the comments of James Baker, the former Sec. of the Treasury and Sec. of State.
That said, I see myself as a fiscal conservative and a social moderate.
How others see my politics is anyone’s guess.
I hate the lack of true discussion, true debate, the kind that I hope still occurs in smoky rooms throughout the country, where politicos aren’t vying for the spotlight, but are seeking to reach win-win solutions, agreeing to disagree, and making concessions and compromises to keep things moving.
It has always amazed me how quickly think that if you don’t agreee with them they are an “idiot”. Huh? How did this occur. I understand how certain issues – gun control, abortion, tax issues – can be polarizing, but being in opposition doesn’t make people (de facto) idiots.
Juds last blog post..Pre-Wedding Party
by Nathan B.
17 Apr 2009 at 01:09
Honestly, all I want is a government that works. I don’t care how big or small the government is, as long as the system uses my tax dollars for domestic tranquility, common defense and general welfare of the people, I’m sound as a pound.
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by Joe
17 Apr 2009 at 22:36
Ooooo…. this is fun post! I don’t know if socialism is the way to go (mostly because I’m ignorant on the topic) but I know it won’t happen. At least, not in my lifetime or my son’s lifetime. Shit, we’ve still got people in a fit that we’ve got a black president. It’s unbelievable to me. Skin color STILL is a source of prejudice. A man is given less rights in our country because he doesn’t love women. A guy cuts his wife’s head off and it’s barely a blip on the news radar, but this other guy is involved in dog fighting… STOP THE PRESSES!!! As a note, the dog fighting thing is horrible, but that’s not the point right now.
What I do know is that there’s a mess in DC to get cleaned up and sorted out. Earmarks, scandal, lobbyists, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
I dunno what I’m getting at. I still have my fingers crossed for our current administration.
Joes last blog post..I Think the Window was Fogged Up
by Jill/Twipply Skwood
18 Apr 2009 at 12:37
I think, you know that sort of same thing, that maybe I’m insulated. But then again, listening to/watching O’Reilly (or as a friend of mine, a Republican fer cryin’ out loud calls him, O’Vile-y) makes me physically ill.
Not that I’ve ever heard Michael Savage, but I’m sure I preferDan Savage.
Jill/Twipply Skwoods last blog post..Because my Car Registration Sticker DESERVES to be Showered in Affection…
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