I wrote this on Monday, the day after the crime that evoked it. The post has sat in my drafts nagging at me since. I still don’t know if I want to post it but it is a few days later and I’m still angry, so what the hell. I asked Dr. O’C to read it today and to tell me if it was too harsh. She said it wasn’t, but then Dr. O’C often does her red hair and Irish blood proud with the ferocity of her opinions.
We’re a good match:
Be forewarned – I’m pissed off. I’m sick to my stomach and I’ve got some strong words regarding my homeland. Some of my American readers may be offended, I may even lose some readers today. But to be perfectly honest I’m not in the business of stroking the egos of my fellow countrymen and I’m not in the mood to mince words.
I’m disgusted by the execution of Dr. George Tiller, the Kansas physician gunned down at church this weekend. I’m not going to talk about abortion because ultimately, abortion is not the point. I’m not interested in an argument about abortion. My views on the subject aren’t black and white, nor are they particularly relevant.
There’s a meme circulating about some of the media that Right Wing talkers bear some of the responsibility for Tiller’s killing. As an example they cite hosts like Bill O’Reilly, who referred to him as Tiller the Baby Killer, compared him with a Nazi and went through great pains to paint the doctor as a murderer. They say that he stirred up the passions of the radical anti-abortion movement by essentially painting the doctor as a mass murderer. Between this killing and one last year in a Tennessee church in which the murderer cited a book by right wing author Bernard Goldberg it does seem that there are some truly unhinged individuals listening to the Far Right. But I think this is an oversimplification – something at which the American media excels.
For the last month, a la Morgan Spurlock’s “Supersize Me”, I’ve been listening to some of the far right talkers on a daily basis - O’Reilly, Laura Ingraham, Mark Levin and Michael Savage. And like Spurlock, with a steady diet of this tripe I feel sick and rotten inside. These people mislead for a living – plucking stories from the news and sound bites from enemies (and anyone who disagrees with them is an enemy) to support an agenda driven message. These people are frightening in their capacity for hatred of those with whom they disagree. Homophobia is rife in the Far Right as is misogyny. Savage regularly refers to homosexuals as ’sodomites’ and talks about the ‘fetid skirts’ of women in power. Levin recently suggested to a female caller that her husband ‘put a gun to his head’ rather than listen to her speak.
After a month of listening to these guys I’ve had enough. I can’t take anymore. I was interested in listening to a perspective with which I disagree and still am. I was amused for a while, then bemused. But after a month of listening I found that some of the hate that they spew into the ether was finding its way into my head. Not knowing how to process it, I started to feel a little bit dirty inside. I can’t handle this perspective. It’s too angry. Too rooted in fear and hatred. And I’m just not that kind of guy. I live pretty happily without hatred, anger and fear. I want to keep it that way. I’ve unsubscribed from all these Far Right podcasts. I’ll stick with The Economist and Counterpoint for my right wing perspective.
Appalling as these people are, as full of hate and vitriol, they aren’t responsible for Tiller’s death. They are not accessories to the crime. No more than Keith Olberman is responsible for the slaying of an army recruiter in Arkansas. Certainly not on their own. They created an environment in which it was acceptable to despise the work that Tiller was doing, but they didn’t pull the trigger.
Tiller’s murder is indicative of a greater problem, of a disease that has infected my homeland. And lest you think I’m a standard ranting Leftist, this disease isn’t just being spread by the Far Right. What about guns? The Left has muzzled itself on the issue of gun control. It seems like every week there’s one of these killings. In 2004, 81 people a day died from gun shot wounds in the United States. About half of these are suicides, but still – 81 people a day. In the last month, 57 people have died in seven different mass shooting events – dead at the hand of some madman with easy access to a legal gun. Earlier this year we commemorated the tenth anniversary of the Columbine shootings. And the Democratic Party has been silent on gun control for about the same amount of time. We – the people who don’t fancy getting shot by some random psycho – have lost the war.
The NRA has won and sits bloated and smug on its coffers while America shoots itself – repeatedly – in the foot.
And then there’s the media itself. The media that is so obsessed with ‘fairness’ that it shows two sides (and only two) to every story – one is either for abortion or against abortion, one feels that it is either a fundamental right or murder with no room for nuance. The media that glamourizes violence by splashing murderers faces all over the television for weeks after a grievous crime. The media that creates a carnival atmposphere whereever it goes – with bold headlines and special reports. The media that is unwilling or unable to scratch below the surface of a story, opting instead for the fifteen second sound bite to explain the news.
But do you know who bears the most responsibility for Tiller’s death?
We do. We who will watch the press coverage with disgust, outrage and sadness for a few days and then move on. We’ll think, ‘how sad’ and ’something must be done’ for a week or so. But then we’ll find another shiny object to distract us. We’ll find some new story to briefly grip our attention. We’ll go back to watching American Idol and I’m A Celebrity Get Me Out of Here. We’ll go back to moaning about our jobs and our families and the difficulty of life.
And nothing will change.
Nothing ever changes.
But something has changed irrevocably for George Tiller’s wife and children. They won’t be getting back to life as normal in a few days. I’ve never lost a spouse or a parent, so I don’t know how long it takes to mourn but I don’t imagine that they’ll be sitting down with a bowl of popcorn to watch the next episode of The Real Housewives of Wherever the Hell any time in the near future. And even if they do there is going to be a yawning hole in their lives where their father/husband used to be. How the hell do you fill that hole?
I hear on almost a daily basis about just how wonderful the United States of America is – a force for good in the world, a beacon of freedom and liberty, a noble and powerful country to be admired and imitated. I’ve felt that myself. I felt it with the election of Barack Obama very recently (that feeling is rapidly fading). I feel it when I think about the U.S. that saved the world from Hitler. I feel it when I think about the moon missions and biomedical advances and American fiction and jazz and rock and roll.
But today I call bullshit on the myth of America.
With the death of George Tiller, I see the United States of America in 2009 as a cancer patient, rotting away from the inside. The United States of America in 2009 is a parody of itself, a nation self-obsessed, a nation trillions of dollars in debt but still spending hundreds of billions of dollars for a military to protect itself from an imagined enemy while its people can’t afford to go to the doctor. The Unites States of 2009 spends countless hours arguing about the trivia of who can and cannot get married while madmen can buy guns at the local Wal-Mart. The United States of 2009 doesn’t make anything and sits idly by while jobs go overseas and people lose their homes. The United States of 2009 watches with the appropriate amount of manufactured horror while innocent people get gunned down at work, at school, in the street, in their cars or at church. And then the United States of America in 2009 changes the channel and thinks to itself…
But everybody’s gotta die sometime and we can’t save everybody
It’s the best that we can do.
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by headbang8
04 Jun 2009 at 21:58
What took you so long?
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by The Unbearable Banishment
04 Jun 2009 at 22:32
I’m with you, AFM. I agree with your post. Call me a naive idiot but I think the election of President Obama was a turning point for this country. Change doesn’t happen overnight but I feel it occurring under my feet. I actually think we NEED a strong Republican party. It’s not healthy for one party to have unchecked power. The fact that the zealots on the right have been routed is a hopeful sign. A voice of moderation will rise from the ashes of their hate.
by Right Wing Looney
04 Jun 2009 at 22:46
This is what pushes you over the edge?….one random act by some crazy and now your done? when was the last abortion doctor shooting- 10+ years ago? And this is it- now you’ve had it? Why werent you pushed too far when A “Muslim” shoots 2 recruiters right smack dab here inthe good ol USA – volunteer American solders? Barely gets mentioned in your column, Or did that act not “Disgust” you enough? Must be that that doesnt fit into your party line. You could have wrote this exact same column on that topic.
BTW- That Steve Earle album sucks. Anything after Transendental Blues (maybe besides Townes) is overproduced, heavy handed preaching. At least you can post a good song.
by Noble Savage
04 Jun 2009 at 22:59
The only point you made that I would question is that America saved the world from Hitler. I think some Europeans would disagree with you on that one!
And can I just say how happy and relived I am that you’ve stopped listening to that far right tripe. One doesn’t have to be indoctrinated straight from the source in order to at least try to understand the ‘other side.’ It will infect your brain, dude.
Great post. And you haven’t lost this reader, that’s for sure!
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by we_be_toys
04 Jun 2009 at 23:27
Oh honey, I hate the media with a passion, for all the reasons you gave! I don’t know how you were able to listen to the Far Right vitriol as long as you did – they’re poisonous adders, in my mind. There IS a lot of apathy in the US, that’s what all that mindless TV is for, you know – to keep the masses sedated with with stupidity. Ack! But there are also people who do want to see a change, who do pay attention. They just don’t get media time because well, sanity just doesn’t sell as well as utter madness. Maybe I’m naive as well, but like Unbearable Banishment, I still have hope that change is in the works. I’m not blind to the hatemongerers, I just don’t want to succumb to their negative campaign.
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by JChevais
04 Jun 2009 at 23:33
The French do indeed think that the US saved Europe. D-Day is on June 6th and OMG, Obama will be on Normandy’s beaches. It’s a big deal here.
One thing that I’m having a hard time getting my brain around is this (and forgive me if I come off as a complete git): Americans are after Ben Laden because of the way he fired up extremists with words. So what’s the difference between the Far Right people and Ben Laden?
by ohthatgirl
05 Jun 2009 at 01:08
Here are the things a try to keep in perspective when processing my country’s “news”:
1. Most people on T.V. are not a great representation of the majority of the population of the U.S. Maybe that’s what makes television so popular. The lives that we see on T.V. are, for the most part, represented in a way that is completely seperate from our own.
2. There are extremists on every side. Bill O’Reilly (though he says he is “fair and balanced”) is just a narcissistic asshole looking for a fight. The important thing to remember is that some people are followers, and some people have a brain that they use frequently to form their own conclusions with the information they are given.
3. The media is what it is. That’s probably not going to change anytime too soon. One person’s hatred for another probably does not stem directly from media influence. Simply put, I watch the same media coverage that most of my fellow Americans watch (and I get pissed and frustrated at times, too), but I am not going out shooting at others, because my parents taught me better than that.
4. There are some fucked up people out there that I will never truly understand.
I applaud you, AFM, for recognizing that things are NOT always black and white AND for not accepting that blame should be placed on others for one crazy person’s actions. It really is appalling and heartbreaking to hear a story like this. Our media splashes these scenes across our television screens in an attempt to sensationalize a horrid act for the benefit of ratings. But maybe it’s not so much that we are apathetic, it’s that we have seen these horrible things so many times that we have accepted it as a way of life. Maybe that’s wrong, maybe it’s normal. But people have been doing horrible things since the beginning of human life.
While I agree that this “disease” has infected our country, I must add that America is not the only country infected. It’s all over, all around us. That’s the scary part. It is not contained within the boundaries of our home soil.
Good post.
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by NATUI
05 Jun 2009 at 01:32
My frustration is the whole black and white stance. One or the other, no in-between. That America is evil or the pinnacle of the civilized world. Do you think you were part of the apathy when you lived here? I know moving abroad changed a lot of my views because you were able to see more than one viewpoint than just the pro/con that American media tend to promote.
Either way, I’m glad you wrote this and I’m glad you hit PUBLISH. What you have or have not written on this blog prior to this post has no bearing on how you feel now. Anyone who cannot see that life is a sum of one’s experiences and exposures deserves to call themselves looney.
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by Gypsy
05 Jun 2009 at 01:44
This really resonated with me. I am so very guilty of that apathy, that momentarily incensed feeling. I don’t know if it’s a product of insulation or a coping mechanism. Either way, I’m glad you wrote this, and I agree with you — our values and priorities are so misaligned these days.
It may be more pronounced here in the states, but I’m sure countries have much the same struggle in terms of media bias, right?
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by courtney
05 Jun 2009 at 02:49
You’ve not offended or lost me. The only thing I take issue with is your broad use of the word “media,” when you are clearly referring only to television or radio reporting or punditry. As a former newspaper woman, I’m partial to the written word, and I still say that’s where people should go if they want a clearer view of the issues. Newspapers aren’t perfect, of course, but they’re better than TV.
But, yeah. I agree with everything else, and sometimes I’m ashamed to be an American. I’ll never give O’Reilley or Limbaugh or any of those hate-filled propagandists the benefit of my ears; even though I appreciate the value of opinions different from my own, I don’t think theirs are valid and therefore won’t grant them an audience. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Those guys turn politics into sports. There’s no real reason to hate any team; people hate the other team because that’s what they think they’re supposed to do, and they like getting all riled up about it. Just like pundits will automatically dismiss an idea as stupid just because it came from a Democrat. Doesn’t matter what the issue is.
I can only hope that the moderates will eventually gain a majority and do away with this partisan bullshit. Perhaps it’s wishful thinking, but I do think more and more people are declining to align themselves with any party (myself included — I’m a registered independent) because both parties suck. So many issues, including abortion, the environment, etc., are not about right and left, but about right and wrong. Taking the best of something and tweaking it into something new, while getting rid of the rotten, outdated bits, are what America has excelled at in the past, and we can do it again. I still have to believe that.
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by Jamie
05 Jun 2009 at 02:59
Now this is the Angry Chris I know and love. I would, however, say that O’Reilly does bear some direct responsibility for Tiller’s death – O’Reilly didn’t just rant on and on about abortion – he directly accused Tiller of being a mass murderer and a criminal; and, more importantly, he encouraged people to harass Tiller and his clinic. That goes beyond simply free speech into the realm of assault.
Unfortunately, we will see a lot more of this. Since the Far Right is so out of power, the loons and nutjobs are already claiming that violence is acceptable to keep the U.S. from becoming “socialist.” This is only encouraged by GOP leaders who legitimize the crazy talk.
But let me end on a “funny” story about gun control in the USA. Remember “Charlie Brown” from high school? He wanted to buy a gun one day, so I went with him to the Wal-Mart in Lake City. All you had to do was fill out of form, that was not verified in anyway, answering “no” to a series of questions: Are you planning on using this gun to commit a crime? No. Do you have a criminal record? No. But my favorite: Are you mentally insane?
Well, I am not sure how our society should answer that last one.
by Teri
05 Jun 2009 at 04:01
Good post. I feel appropriately guilty for being somewhat apathetic. I feel powerless to change the media so many of the things you talked about. I vote. I participate. And perhaps I should use my pen and pocketbook more to put fuel to good causes. I agree with much of your frustration, yet I don’t have an answer. I don’t know how to stop the two sided debate, the right-wing vitriol, the blind partisan politics. It seems like a machine out of control. And perhaps it’s group-apathy that makes that machine so hard to stop. I wish we could get to a point where we had good, multifaceted discussions in the news and political arena. But wishing doesn’t get it done. I don’t know. I wish I knew better what exactly to do to make this stuff stop. I agree with your assessment of the problems we have. Good post.
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by Dad
05 Jun 2009 at 04:29
Haven’t posted for awhile, but this column did provoke some thought. The far right is no worse that the far left in provoking violense. And I fear if the far left has it’s way, you may see violence that has not been seen since the country was founded – maybe another revolution. The redistribution of wealth – the battle cry of the far left, if it comes to fruition, will not come without peanalty. This country was founded on freedom and the revolution was based on high taxation on those creative and disciplined enough to amass wealth.
Now the far left feels that it is unfair that those talented people who work hard, take risks and make sacrafices have no right to the income they earn. They should be taxed to the point that it no longer makes sense to put forth any additional effort to generate income when that income is then redistributed to those who feel they are ENTITLED to the good life as well – even if they choose to sit on their butts and have someone deliver them a check.
Your other point – violence in America. Yes it is here. And the gun laws are insane. And people die needless violent deaths every day. But, if I am not mistaken, on most any day you can walk down the streets of most cities or drive around the country with the expectation of arriving home without incident. You are unlikely to die at the hands of a suicide bomber, run over a land mine, die in a gas attack on public transportation, be gunned down by maniacs with automatic weapons in the street. But all of these things happen all over the world- not just third world countries. We are talking about England, France, Germany, Spain, Russia etc. Frankly I’ll take my chances here where some punk might drop me for a few bucks in my wallet rather than wonder if the next time I drive to the grocery store I might just be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
by Here In Franklin
05 Jun 2009 at 04:33
To add to the madness, the Tennessee legislature voted today to allow persons with concealed weapon permits to take their guns into bars. Because, you know, guns and alcohol are such a winning combination. BTW–today’s vote overrode our governor’s veto of this measure. At least he has some sense. Another good reason to do my drinking at home on my deck.
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by rassles
05 Jun 2009 at 06:15
I have media rules that I follow in regards to mass murderers.
I refuse to talk about them. Not out of apathy, but because ultimately, committing multiple crimes in public is a cry for some sort of attention, and I refuse to waste my time on that or offer any consolation. Of course, those people don’t know my stance, but whatever. I will talk about their victims, however.
Violence though? I’m mixed on it. I hate it, it’s infuriating, it sucks.
But it’s necessary. No one deserves a life of crime, or to have crimes committed against them. But honestly, in the concept of balance and equilibrium, it’s necessary. Poverty is necessary. Keeping the rich retardedly rich is necessary. Not because they deserve it, but because that’s just how shit is, it’s how it always has been, and it’s how it always will be. Passion counters passion. But if we have nothing to be passionate about, nothing to rebel against, nothing to fight for, nothing to inspire belief, we’re just going to BECOME a society of apathy.
And apathy and inaction are far more threatening mindsets to me than terror, on a human, instinctual level.
But that’s just my personal incompatibility with a concept. Because I know that to balance out the passionate sides, we require the middle. Apathy is necessary. Society needs the shades that fall between the starkness of black and white.
Could you imagine a world full of nothing but lions and wolves and mice and bunnies?
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by blues
05 Jun 2009 at 08:58
Wow. Hefty post here. Hard to know exactly what to say, except that I’ve felt all of these things before and I know deep down inside me that many of the things you mention are the reasons why living in the states doesn’t sit right with me anymore. These things are just too glaring when we’ve been away and see our country from afar. You know, when capital punishment isn’t a debate issue anymore; peoples mouths drop open at the thought of it being debatable.
Europe isn’t much better, but there are certain things that I see here still that I don’t see there. Besides the obvious things like gun control and universal healthcare is real political dialogue (at least more real than I’ve seen back home). You said it so well with this:
“And then there’s the media itself. The media that is so obsessed with ‘fairness’ that it shows two sides (and only two) to every story”.
This is exactly right and reaffirms the good/evil mentality so strong in American culture. There is no picking things apart and dissecting things for meaning and discovery and nuance and shades and unintended consequences. Watching political “debate” in the states sickens me because it’s so false, it’s false oposition so people won’t pick things apart too much, won’t think too much and realize how complex the problems in our country are, requiring deep analytical thought to sort out.
The dialogue I see here is not only on the T.V., which educates people, but also you see it in families, among friends, people are encouraged to discuss politics, and I haven’t felt that way in the states. It always amazes me how elloquent young people are here in expressing their political views. At home, it’s basically considered rude to discuss politics, along with religion. You’re like a party pooper if you bring it up, hence your disclaimer of possibly losing readers with this post.
And i say this: Sing it Free Man!
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by admin
05 Jun 2009 at 09:54
Headbang – To do what? Respond to the killing or spurn America?
TUB – I thought that Obama was going to be a turning point as well, but I’m losing faith. He’s reminiscent of the last Democratic president in a lot of ways. He’s left the gays out to dry, we’re still in Iraq, Guatanamo is still open and we’re escalating the war in Afghanistan. His health care plan panders to the insurance companies. He’s got a massive mandate and big majorities in both houses of Congress and he’s taking the Clinton middle way. And not a damn word about reinstating the assault weapons ban – as minor a type of gun control as one could imagine.
Right Wing Looney – Thanks. I was hoping that someone would spout out the Far Right’s talking points on this one. Well done.
NS – I think most people would go with the hypothesis that Hitler would have ultimately worn down the British – who were the only ones left fighting – if the U.S. hadn’t come into the war.
We Be Toys – Maybe it’s because I’m away from the country and have been for coming on five years now. Maybe it’s because I don’t have my finger on the pulse of the nation anymore, but I’m just pretty despondent.
JChev – I’m not going there, but what annoys me is that the Homeland Security Department issued a warning about domestic terrorism from Far Right groups. They were force – largely by the Far Right talkers – to apologize. Then there was what can be described as a domestic terrorism incident from a Far Right extremist. Huh. Surprised?
Oh That Girl – Great points. But acceptance and apathy aren’t that far removed from one another. Why do we accept it. Why, after scores of people are killed at a school, does no one seriously talk about the country’s gun laws? Why are politicians so scared of the gun lobby, the insurance lobby, etc.
As an e-mail that I got regarding this post pointed out, I’ve left the country now. I left for love, but the longer I’m gone the more I realize that it’s not the same everywhere. That’s another one of those great American myths – Europe’s no better. Australia’s no better. Canada’s no better. Bullshit.
NATUI – I was apathetic. Maybe not as apathetic as some. I marched in an anti-war march after the Iraq invasion, but did so in a half-hearted manner. That’s me. Half-heartedly non-apathetic. I’m not calling for action with this post. I don’t care. I’m gone. I’m probably not coming back. Y’all do what you need to do. I’m just sad, I guess.
Gypsy – Australia’s media is shockingly bad. Largely because most of it is owned by Rupert Murdoch, who got his start here. But we don’t have the Far Right talk radio really.
Courtney – Good point. Newspapers are better. I still the New York Times is/was the best English language newspaper in the world and that includes some very good British papers. But newspapers are on the way out. Reading is so tiring.
Jamie – I knew you would like this post. I think attributing responsibility to O’Reilly gives him too much credibility.
That guy you’re talking about. He needed a gun like he needed a hole in the head. Actually, him having a gun made us all more likely to develop a hole in the head. What happened to him? Army? Would have had a lot of guns there.
Teri – I don’t know that there’s anything to do. Other than turning off the damn television and radio. If nobody listens, then these people are rendered completely powerless. That’s why I’m turning them off. I’m getting my American news now from NPR, PBS, the NYT online and Slate – all well reasoned, well researched and moderate voices.
Dad – The thing is that barring war zones, you’re more likely to be in the wrong place at the wrong time in the U.S. than in any other Western country. The murder rate in the U.S. is twice that of Northern Ireland – one of the places that occasionally suffers terrorist incidents and four times that of England and Australia. More people have died in terrorist attacks in the U.S. in the last ten years than all of Western Europe combined. Do you know how many people who have been killed in Australia due to terrorism in the last decade? 0. Obviously if you’re living in Iraq, life sucks. But lets compare like to like, shall we?
The ’socialism’ thing – I stand by the statement that I made some months ago. I’d be paying a higher tax rate in the U.S. (pre-Obama ’socialism’) that I am in Australia and be getting far less for my tax dollar. That’s a whole different kettle of fish, though and not one that I want to get into today.
I’ve got to got and teach my apathetic students, I’ll respond to the rest of the comments later.
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by Joe
05 Jun 2009 at 12:14
I’m not fully sure what my opinion is. I fully agree with your last paragraph. The rest, I’m not sure. I’m having difficulty figuring out if you’re saying gun control is an issue, or if it’s just something your mentioning (about the ease of getting firearms).
We are a product of our environment. That guy had some serious issues and felt that it was his purpose to kill the doctor. The shame is that there are so many people out there (not just the United States) that have deep rooted issues, but aren’t getting the help (if there truly is help for them) they need.
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by ms picket to you
05 Jun 2009 at 13:36
you know i follow you around sometimes on the comments? i always want to say “what Freeman said.”
I am with you and apart from you on this. I think your distance gives you clarity, which I appreciate, but I have to believe you understand our constitution and how difficult the defense of liberty is when faced with the defense of people. Liberty, in the US, trumps every time.
i have deep feelings about the diminishment of abortion clinics: that they should be moved to public places like hospitals where no woman walking in will be instantly judged or targeted. no one will know why she is there. or what the doctors within are doing.
i know that’s not what you’re talking about. i think you are talking about the self-loathing many of us have for our country. when 9/11 happened, we ditched that for a while. now, we are like trust fund kids: guilty if we buy or don’t buy the drinks. we lose every time.
truth is: no matter what, no matter when, the US has consistently, historically, bellied up to the bar.
i sleep at night because of that.
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by heather
05 Jun 2009 at 15:09
I am a pretty anti-American American. I have long European ties and I always see American gun laws, abortion, and general idiocy as the reactions of a spoiled brat nation.
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by suzer
05 Jun 2009 at 19:55
The thing is that most Americans are wired like this, from birth. How do you change something like that? It’s the biggest difference between Yanks and Aussies, I find. They’re much more we-centric but even though I think that’s a wonderful quality I myself am only halfway there.
by mongoliangirl
05 Jun 2009 at 22:55
How about THIS post, AFM? I don’t often come across a post that generates debate. I’m glad for it. Thanks.
I need to be honest that I think this is the only conclusion you will ever come to if the only ‘right wing’ information you get is from the likes of O’Reilly. Oy vey. He’s not REALLY anything other than a media whore. Seriously.
TRUE conservative thought, I’ve found, is actually quite wise and generally helpful to all. As is more liberal thought.
The problem? We’ve been taken over by corporations. This is where I agree with your statements about apathy. What I rail against is the corporate take over of EVERYTHING and the fear and apathy that has allowed this to happen.
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by chris
06 Jun 2009 at 01:30
I don’t agree with everything you wrote but I understand the sentiment. I don’t think as a people we are apathetic, I think it has more to do with a lack of efficacy because in recent years, the political process has seemed to not work for so many of us. The fairness, the respect has been trampled by the pundits. Lines have been drawn and things made more sensational, more black and white for higher ratings or a captivating news lead in.
Tom Junod(who’s writing I love)wrote a great piece on American assent and how it made things the way they are–it’s fantastic.
http://www.esquire.com/features/opening-essay/look-back-at-bush-0209
Also, if you haven’t read it already, go read the release for Obama’s speech in Cairo, I at least was overwhelmed at his grasp of the current issues we face and his no nonsense stating of the facts.
I’m glad you didn’t forgo publishing this, I think this is an important part of not assenting, not allowing things to happen around us with no involvement. Writing may not seem as committed as protesting but it has the ability to change people’s minds, disseminate ideas and convince others to act and vote on their beliefs because they know they are not alone.
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by mickey
06 Jun 2009 at 02:18
Yes.
by Nathan B.
06 Jun 2009 at 08:46
Not to nit-pick, but the part about “he United States of 2009 doesn’t make anything…” gives no credit to the agriculture industry.
by Gwen
06 Jun 2009 at 15:19
Can I be honest and say that this was painful to read? I mean, it was very good and I respect your honesty. I certainly agree with you on a lot of what you said. When you said, “We are” responsible for Tiller’s death my heart sank in my chest. I feel guilty for so many things already these days. I try to be a good person. I help people when I can, donate to charity when I can afford it, am raising my daughter to be tolerant and open-minded, vote democratic. Do I sound pathetic when I say I don’t know what else I can do to change the world I live in? I don’t feel apathy. I care very much about the problems in our country. I just feel helpless to fix them.
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by Jill/Twipply Skwood
08 Jun 2009 at 02:15
“while America shoots itself – repeatedly – in the foot.”
I dunno…if the facts in your post are correct, I’m thinking the foot isn’t exactly where we’re shooting ourselves.
I’m not sure about the whole myth of American thing. Sometimes I feel that way and sometimes not. Maybe things swing back and I think sometimes maybe the whole recession thing will give us back some perspective – remind us that every last 11 year old does not need an expensive cell phone or whatever and that the Hummer was never a good idea in the first place. Then sometimes I think maybe the world only is going to hell in a hand basket. Maybe it always has been on it’s way. Or maybe we’re only improving. Certainly in some ways we’re improving all the time.
Love that Steve Earle album!
Gwen – On the guilt: I think you can only do what you can do. To a certain extent, we’re all humans and all responsible. And yet in anther way what could you personally have done? You will be able to do something good with your life, and that’s about it. You’ll be able to do more at some points in your life than You’ll have more and less time and money and energy at different points of your life to devote to those things about which you feel strongly. It’s a balance somehow to feel and act without eating yourself alive with guilt in the process. Not that I’ve *found* the balance by any means, mind you.
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by SSG
08 Jun 2009 at 12:22
I don’t like guns. They separate the deed and the result too much. Pulling a trigger is much easier than stabbing someone with a knife. At least, I would find it is. And not just for killing fellow man- easier to shoot when hunting than kill an animal with your hands. It separates the beginning and the end too much.
And there are things all over the world that are shite, happening everyday, not just in America. Britains becoming obese ignorant drunkards (referring to the state of Britains towns on a Friday or Saturday night, what other countries throw up for fun?), otakus in Japan becoming online hermits to escape societal pressure, problems of racism and prejudice everywhere, wealth divide, the fact more money is spent on male pattern baldness than on malarial treatments, terrorism, over population, pollution, global warming, poverty and disease all over the world, war, famine, so many bad things. What can we do? Do we rely on our vote, hoping our politicians will do something about these things? Do we help in a small way, recycling, donating to charity, volunteering? Do we try to change others view points to be like ours? Do we lobby our governing bodies to change laws? Do we educate people why not to have a gun? Do we target schools? Do we try and ban guns in the media? Do we just not carry a gun ourselves? Do we just ignore it? What is the answer?
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by ruth
10 Jun 2009 at 06:25
I agree with much of what you say except that I am old and have a pretty long view these days….
A couple of years ago I was ready to leave the states forever. Now, I am glad I stayed. Things are changing. Incrementally but steadily…. I am feeling a bit more optimistic for a number of reasons – possibly just because I am old and have a good memory.
Of course, it could all just go kerflooey at any moment but I am starting to believe MLK may have had a point about that old arc of history. It doesn’t move fast but it moves.
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by Trish
11 Jun 2009 at 11:28
This was a great post, and it’s taken me a while to comment because I’ve been digesting what you’ve said. My metabolism is quite slow.
I would like to live in a world where media consumers are a lot more inclined to ask questions – to question authority, if you will – and not just take what they see on television as the whole truth. The right wing media, and their opposite numbers on the left, all have a role to play. It’s up to us to not swallow it all without chewing it a few times. That’s all I ask – that people exercise their judgment a little better, and not believe all the bullshit simply because that’s the easiest thing to do.
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by admin
11 Jun 2009 at 11:35
HIF – Guns in bars. Great idea. It will clean up the gene pool a bit, I reckon.
Rassles – That’s a pretty negative attitude, man. I don’t know. I don’t think all of those things are necessary. I certainly hope not.
Blues – That bipolar morality is what drives me nuts. American politics would be vastly improved with much more grey area – a legitimate third party for example, but I don’t think it is ever going to happen.
Joe – Gun control is THE issue. It’s retarded, this religious obsession with the constitution. A lot of people worshipit and can conveniently forget that the constitution allowed slavery and forbade women to vote. We’ve moved on from that, why can’t we move on from this bullshit militia clause?
Ms Picket – What do you mean by that last line? Internationally? What about multiple genocides in Africa that we’ve ignored? Domestically? I don’t know what you’re getting at. Liberty. Fuck liberty. Most people don’t even know what it means.
Heather – You’re even harsher than me!
Suzer – Agreed, and I’m still working on that one as well.
Mongola – You hit it dead on. Everything that our government does has corporations in mind. Can’t make legitimate health care changes because it might hurt the insurance companies. Can’t pass real gun control legislation because it might hurt gun manufacturers.
Chris – I’m just not sure that electing Obama equals any real change. Every day he does, or doesn’t do, something that makes me realize that we’re just not going to get the changes that we need.
Nathan – Fair point. How about this: Due to agricultural subsidies, the U.S. has a glut of corn. To avoid letting it rot in silos we make oceans of ethanol that is a less efficient fuel than oil and seas of high fructose corn syrup to poison our kids.
Better?
Gwen – That perception of powerlessness is probably pretty accurate. And you’re right, I was probably a bit harsh. But I get pissed off and I go.
Jill – I don’t know. Maybe I’ve reached grumpy old man age, but I think things are going in the other direction.
SSG – I don’t know the answer. But I do know that you’re right about Britain. I think if anyone has worse problems than the U.S. does it would be Britain.
Ruth – I’ve lost my optimism, I’m afraid.
by maggie, dammit
18 Jun 2009 at 01:30
I think your dad is my dad.
You will never lose me — I’m just often (unforgivably) late.
This is exactly the kind of post I love from you.
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