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	<title>Comments on: You always told me Father&#8217;s Day was just another way of selling Hallmark greeting cards</title>
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		<title>By: blues</title>
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		<dc:creator>blues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 18:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, I really appreciate this post.  So many people only let you see the side where they are just head over heels for their newborn and not many have the guts to tell you the connection isn&#039;t instantaneous.
.-= blues&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://bluesofawaxwing.blogspot.com/2009/10/gum-and-madge.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gum and Madge&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I really appreciate this post.  So many people only let you see the side where they are just head over heels for their newborn and not many have the guts to tell you the connection isn&#8217;t instantaneous.<br />
<span class="cluv"> blues&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://bluesofawaxwing.blogspot.com/2009/10/gum-and-madge.html" rel="nofollow">Gum and Madge</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://www.afreeman.org/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Jessica K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 21:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, that sounds a lot like Grant.  He didn&#039;t care much for Jeff for a long time.  He really didn&#039;t like anyone but me.  I wore him around in the Baby Bjorn constantly, because it made him happy and kept my hands free!  
He&#039;s definitely Jeff&#039;s wild child now though!  He LOVES being with his dad.  I&#039;m sure Not Max will come around.  Hang in there!
.-= Jessica K&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://justjessie.typepad.com/justjessie/2009/09/oh-the-little-things-that-make-life-so-sweet.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Oh, The Little Things That Make Life So Sweet&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, that sounds a lot like Grant.  He didn&#8217;t care much for Jeff for a long time.  He really didn&#8217;t like anyone but me.  I wore him around in the Baby Bjorn constantly, because it made him happy and kept my hands free!<br />
He&#8217;s definitely Jeff&#8217;s wild child now though!  He LOVES being with his dad.  I&#8217;m sure Not Max will come around.  Hang in there!<br />
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 04:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HIF - I don&#039;t know. He seems pretty pissed off about the whole thing. 

Tys - I know. I just wish he would let me sleep. 

SciFi - Boy Z is much more bonded to me and my theory is that is because I had to hold him - for similar reasons that you did - for the first hour after he was born. 

SIS - Right now we&#039;re watching West Wing over again. But I think I have some pretty good ideas for a new one. 


Muskrat - Not Max will definitely become more interesting, but I&#039;m not sure that the &#039;Dawgs are going to do much winning this season.


Alice - I hear a lot of good things about Weeds as well. And as a half hour comedy it may be the perfect length for our purposes.

Jamie - I don&#039;t think we know anything about how sorry ass or not your team is until they play a Div 1-A school. When do you guys do that? Like November? I just watched the season finale of Season 2 of Mad Men and was really impressed by the way they dealt with the Cuban Missle Crisis. 

PIS - Well put. And your right. In hindsight I don&#039;t know if I was instantly enamored with Boy Z. I think I convinced myself that I was and the eventually was. Probably the same thing this time round. 

SeattleDad - Hey, thanks for the well wishes on Saturday. 

SSG - Thanks for that actually. I had blocked a lot of that stuff out. You&#039;re right though. 

Beth - Could we have done that? Left him at the hospital? 

Angel - I know your right, but right now in the heat of sleep deprivation, I don&#039;t really believe you. 

Prefers - I did the Sopranos with Boy Z and just recently rewatched the whole series. I&#039;m not bothered by inappropriate material at this age - they don&#039;t see it.

Nathan - I&#039;ve never gotten into Lost. Maybe I should try from the beginning. 

Jan - I used to love that show back in the day. Must be able to find it cheap on DVD as it&#039;s pretty old. 

Rassles - My dad read me Watership Down. 

Suzer - Thanks. 

FGIS - Dammit, I forgot one of those S&#039;s last night. No wonder I couldn&#039;t get him to sleep. Seriously, though, that approach does seem to help. But it does bother me to see him trussed like a turkey.

Kerry - Thanks. I&#039;ve been looking out for Six Feet Under on sale somewhere. 

Veronica - I don&#039;t mind pitching in, not at all, but I guess I just forgot what a new baby is like. Not easy. Not easy.

Lora - It certainly isn&#039;t like a commercial. I wanted to through a hammer through the TV the other day when I saw one of those commercials. A placid, glowing baby. Ah, how sweet. Certainly not my experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HIF &#8211; I don&#8217;t know. He seems pretty pissed off about the whole thing. </p>
<p>Tys &#8211; I know. I just wish he would let me sleep. </p>
<p>SciFi &#8211; Boy Z is much more bonded to me and my theory is that is because I had to hold him &#8211; for similar reasons that you did &#8211; for the first hour after he was born. </p>
<p>SIS &#8211; Right now we&#8217;re watching West Wing over again. But I think I have some pretty good ideas for a new one. </p>
<p>Muskrat &#8211; Not Max will definitely become more interesting, but I&#8217;m not sure that the &#8216;Dawgs are going to do much winning this season.</p>
<p>Alice &#8211; I hear a lot of good things about Weeds as well. And as a half hour comedy it may be the perfect length for our purposes.</p>
<p>Jamie &#8211; I don&#8217;t think we know anything about how sorry ass or not your team is until they play a Div 1-A school. When do you guys do that? Like November? I just watched the season finale of Season 2 of Mad Men and was really impressed by the way they dealt with the Cuban Missle Crisis. </p>
<p>PIS &#8211; Well put. And your right. In hindsight I don&#8217;t know if I was instantly enamored with Boy Z. I think I convinced myself that I was and the eventually was. Probably the same thing this time round. </p>
<p>SeattleDad &#8211; Hey, thanks for the well wishes on Saturday. </p>
<p>SSG &#8211; Thanks for that actually. I had blocked a lot of that stuff out. You&#8217;re right though. </p>
<p>Beth &#8211; Could we have done that? Left him at the hospital? </p>
<p>Angel &#8211; I know your right, but right now in the heat of sleep deprivation, I don&#8217;t really believe you. </p>
<p>Prefers &#8211; I did the Sopranos with Boy Z and just recently rewatched the whole series. I&#8217;m not bothered by inappropriate material at this age &#8211; they don&#8217;t see it.</p>
<p>Nathan &#8211; I&#8217;ve never gotten into Lost. Maybe I should try from the beginning. </p>
<p>Jan &#8211; I used to love that show back in the day. Must be able to find it cheap on DVD as it&#8217;s pretty old. </p>
<p>Rassles &#8211; My dad read me Watership Down. </p>
<p>Suzer &#8211; Thanks. </p>
<p>FGIS &#8211; Dammit, I forgot one of those S&#8217;s last night. No wonder I couldn&#8217;t get him to sleep. Seriously, though, that approach does seem to help. But it does bother me to see him trussed like a turkey.</p>
<p>Kerry &#8211; Thanks. I&#8217;ve been looking out for Six Feet Under on sale somewhere. </p>
<p>Veronica &#8211; I don&#8217;t mind pitching in, not at all, but I guess I just forgot what a new baby is like. Not easy. Not easy.</p>
<p>Lora &#8211; It certainly isn&#8217;t like a commercial. I wanted to through a hammer through the TV the other day when I saw one of those commercials. A placid, glowing baby. Ah, how sweet. Certainly not my experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Coal Miner's Granddaughter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coal Miner's Granddaughter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 03:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, my. Those late-night breast feedings, catching up on my TiVo shows or old Wonder Woman episodes. Memories. 

And try swaddling the little buggar or using a sling. That might help. He may still want to be tightly wound up in Mum&#039;s belly and be unhappy with all this space to stretch. Might help. Don&#039;t know.
.-= Coal Miner&#039;s Granddaughter&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/coalminersgd/~3/SCgI5g2R_1U/fck-it.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;F*ck It.&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, my. Those late-night breast feedings, catching up on my TiVo shows or old Wonder Woman episodes. Memories. </p>
<p>And try swaddling the little buggar or using a sling. That might help. He may still want to be tightly wound up in Mum&#8217;s belly and be unhappy with all this space to stretch. Might help. Don&#8217;t know.<br />
<span class="cluv"> Coal Miner&#8217;s Granddaughter&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/coalminersgd/~3/SCgI5g2R_1U/fck-it.html" rel="nofollow">F*ck It.</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://www.afreeman.org/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: lora</title>
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		<dc:creator>lora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 17:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the most beautiful post I&#039;ve read in years.  I didn&#039;t read the comments, but as I scrolled down I saw the word &quot;honest&quot; over and over.  That&#039;s what we need more of.  Honesty in parenting.  It isn&#039;t a Johnson&#039;s soap commercial.  It&#039;s raw and horrifying and breathtaking and wonderful and and and.  You love Not Max.  That is all you need right now, the like will come- some day.  He loves his mommy.  You love them both.  Boy Z needs you more than ever and you are there for him, and you need the bond you share with him so you don&#039;t drown in the deep recesses of daddyguilt.    

Sounds quite ideal to me.
.-= lora&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://littlemaniac.blogspot.com/2009/09/in-my-continuous-effort-to-just-get.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the most beautiful post I&#8217;ve read in years.  I didn&#8217;t read the comments, but as I scrolled down I saw the word &#8220;honest&#8221; over and over.  That&#8217;s what we need more of.  Honesty in parenting.  It isn&#8217;t a Johnson&#8217;s soap commercial.  It&#8217;s raw and horrifying and breathtaking and wonderful and and and.  You love Not Max.  That is all you need right now, the like will come- some day.  He loves his mommy.  You love them both.  Boy Z needs you more than ever and you are there for him, and you need the bond you share with him so you don&#8217;t drown in the deep recesses of daddyguilt.    </p>
<p>Sounds quite ideal to me.<br />
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		<title>By: Veronica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Veronica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 10:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it took my partner a good 6 weeks to bond with our son. It definitely took him that long to want to give me a break by actually holding the damn baby. Isaac is nearly 8 months old now and all is fine, but that first bit, I think it was hard for him. We did a lot of &#039;yours and mine&#039; as he took care of Amy and I did all the newborn stuff.

It&#039;s a learning curve. A steep one.
.-= Veronica&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/somedaywewillsleep/~3/C0pGDuiybhk/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Warmth&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it took my partner a good 6 weeks to bond with our son. It definitely took him that long to want to give me a break by actually holding the damn baby. Isaac is nearly 8 months old now and all is fine, but that first bit, I think it was hard for him. We did a lot of &#8216;yours and mine&#8217; as he took care of Amy and I did all the newborn stuff.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a learning curve. A steep one.<br />
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		<title>By: Kerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 03:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Giving a vote to Six Feet Under. Unbelievable. And if I remember correctly, first episode is outstanding so you&#039;ll get sucked in right away. Although not sure how appropriate it is to have an infant around while watching that show, it&#039;s twisted. Happy Father&#039;s Day :)
.-= Kerry&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wakingupinoz.com/?p=306&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Who needs electricity? It’s FIJI!&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Giving a vote to Six Feet Under. Unbelievable. And if I remember correctly, first episode is outstanding so you&#8217;ll get sucked in right away. Although not sure how appropriate it is to have an infant around while watching that show, it&#8217;s twisted. Happy Father&#8217;s Day <img src='http://www.afreeman.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
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		<title>By: Florida Girl In Sydney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Florida Girl In Sydney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 03:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just saw April recommended the same book/dvd-- I think my comment above summed up the book somewhat if you can&#039;t find it here?  maybe there&#039;s a video on youtube-- it really works.
.-= Florida Girl In Sydney&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/FloridaGirlInSydney/~3/Bx4BaObBzkY/oh-yeah-big-daddy.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Big Daddy&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just saw April recommended the same book/dvd&#8211; I think my comment above summed up the book somewhat if you can&#8217;t find it here?  maybe there&#8217;s a video on youtube&#8211; it really works.<br />
<span class="cluv"> Florida Girl In Sydney&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/FloridaGirlInSydney/~3/Bx4BaObBzkY/oh-yeah-big-daddy.html" rel="nofollow">Big Daddy</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://www.afreeman.org/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Florida Girl In Sydney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Florida Girl In Sydney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 03:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the baby is a real crier-- have you checked out The Happiest Baby on the Block by Dr. Harvey Karp?  It works-- if I can remember, it&#039;s the 4 S&#039;s:  Swaddle, Sucking, Side (have them on their side), Swaying/ rocking.

Not sure if you&#039;re using a dummy/ pacifier-- but shove one in there, swaddle them really tight, hold them on their side with there stomach pressed against yours, and sway/rocket/bounce fast.  

We had a crier and it got us through the 1st 3 months!  Poor Not Max, Poor mommy and daddy.  Sorry about the UF hat too, I knew that would only add to your stress.
.-= Florida Girl In Sydney&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/FloridaGirlInSydney/~3/Bx4BaObBzkY/oh-yeah-big-daddy.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Big Daddy&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the baby is a real crier&#8211; have you checked out The Happiest Baby on the Block by Dr. Harvey Karp?  It works&#8211; if I can remember, it&#8217;s the 4 S&#8217;s:  Swaddle, Sucking, Side (have them on their side), Swaying/ rocking.</p>
<p>Not sure if you&#8217;re using a dummy/ pacifier&#8211; but shove one in there, swaddle them really tight, hold them on their side with there stomach pressed against yours, and sway/rocket/bounce fast.  </p>
<p>We had a crier and it got us through the 1st 3 months!  Poor Not Max, Poor mommy and daddy.  Sorry about the UF hat too, I knew that would only add to your stress.<br />
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		<title>By: suzer</title>
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		<dc:creator>suzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 00:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great pics and as usual, a level of honesty that leaves little unsaid:)
.-= suzer&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://suzerblog.blogspot.com/2009/09/culture-shock-and-stress.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Culture Shock and Stress&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great pics and as usual, a level of honesty that leaves little unsaid:)<br />
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