I’m in Whyalla and I’m thinking about Neandertals. There’s a joke there somewhere if you’re a South Australian, but it isn’t actually a very fair one, or a very good one for that matter. So far, my day in Whyalla has been chock full of bright friendly people and even good food. That being said, I’m at my university’s regional campus rather than One Steel’s blast furnace.
Actually, it’s probably a bit unfair to make Neandertal jokes about Neandertals. Most people who study these sorts of things think that Neandertals were probably pretty decent folks. They used tools, “they took care of individuals that would not have been able to provide for themselves, there are burials so we know that they cared for the dead, there is evidence for symbolic behavior, and it is clear that they were intelligent.” Maybe even more civilised than our human ancestors who very possibly killed them and ate their Neandertal cousins and may have wiped them off the face of the planet entirely.
You may have already worked out that I’m a bit of a human origins anorak. This is my fourth post about Neandertals, meaning that the only topics I’ve spent more time on in this blog is my kids. And the Georgia Bulldogs.
Some of you may have seen the news stories about the sequencing of the Neandertal genome a couple of weeks ago. I intended to sort of leave it alone. “Self, it’s just another sequenced genome”, I said to myself. But it turns out that this one, in the words of the American vice-president, is a big fucking deal*.
It isn’t just the sequencing of the genome, a massive technological accomplishment in its own right. A gaggle of researchers from around the world managed to obtain the sequence of the Neandertal genome from a handful of bones found in a cave in Croatia. Modern humans and Neandertals are genetically very similar. The biggest problem that researchers face when trying to sequence the Neandertal genome is DNA contamination from human scientists. Any of you who have watched a single episode of the myriad CSI’s and their clones on TV know that we shed DNA all over the place in the course of a day. The researchers go through great pains to minimise this contamination and also get rid of random microbial DNA that builds up on bones that have been lying around in caves for 40,000 years or so. The result of all this work is the first published report of Neandertal sequence that is really convincing.
What makes this a bigger deal, however, is a couple of things that the researchers managed to work out by comparing the Neandertal sequence to modern humans and our closest extant relative, the chimpanzee. First, they’ve found some particular parts of the genome that are unique to modern humans. These parts of the genome are of interest because they may represent regions that have undergone positive selection. We all (hopefully) know that the driving force of evolution is natural selection. Well, selection can be negative (weeding out an undesirable trait), neutral or positive. The latter occurs when a particular trait is so beneficial to the organism and thus becomes dominant to other traits until it becomes fixed – or present in all of the population.
Well, the Neandertal researchers found a handful of genes in which a particular variant appears to have become fixed in modern humans that wasn’t present in Neandertals. Some of these are in genes that are expressed in the skin, which seems to imply that there is something special about modern humans’ skin morphology or physiology that gave us a selective advantage over our ill-fated Neandertal cousins. Other genes that exhibit evidence of positive selection in humans are ones involved in cognitive and skeletal development, though these are rather unsurprising.
But the real BFD finding for me is the evidence presented that our modern human forebears and Neandertals, well, got it on. I teach this stuff in my genetics course. And every year I present data that ‘proves’ there was no viable interbreeding between the two species. All the genetic evidence generated to date supported that if humans and Neandertals got a bit frisky on a cold winter night in the cave that they didn’t produce any kids that are related to you or I. The current paper compares the Neandertal genome to present-day humans from sub-Saharan Africa, Papua New Guinea, China and France. What they found absolutely floored me. They showed that Neandertals share more genetic variants with the individuals from China, Papua New Guinea and France than with the Africans. What this means, unequivocally, is that Neandertals and anatomically modern humans mated and produced viable offspring. They did so before modern humans began to spread northwest into Europe and east into Asia and the Pacific but after they migrated out of East Africa. And it wasn’t just a one night stand – between 1-4% of the Eurasian genome is derived from Neandertals.
The implications of this are not entirely clear. If you’re of European or Asian ancestry are you part Neandertal? Almost definitely. Does it matter? Did these Neandertal sequences that have been retained in the modern human genome give Eurasians a selective advantage as they spread around most of the rest of the world? Well, that’s harder to say. But most analyses I’ve read suggest that the Neandertal sequences are neutral, just a relic of a little interspecies loving ‘surfing’ the DNA wave. But I’m not sure. I think that we don’t have all the information that we need to make conclusions about the evolutionary significance, or lack thereof, of this Pleistocene interspecific shagfest.
I guess what it does mean that there are Neandertal descendents roaming around Whyalla after all.
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* Actually, in the grand scheme of things, this is probably a bigger fucking deal than a half-assed health care compromise that isn’t likely to do much of anything to solve the morass that is the American health care system.
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by Cat
19 May 2010 at 21:56
I love to hear about the boys, and I’m learning to love the Georgia Bulldogs (I need to get that one down before August), but my favorite posts you write are the science posts. I can tell you have a hardcore passion for the subject, and you have the rare ability to pass that passion to people who have little or no scientific background. Your students are very lucky indeed.
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by Jill/Twipply Skwood
19 May 2010 at 22:06
Oh “morass”! Great word choice! I like that one! Yeah, while I read that sentence about the “care of individuals who would not be able to provide for themselves”, I was thinking, “Well, they’re already one up on us!” But then they turn out to BE us you’re saying so…where did we actually go wrong I wonder…
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by SciFi Dad
19 May 2010 at 22:15
This is a remarkable revelation. I’d seen documentaries on the Discovery Channel that suggested Neandertal DNA was present to some degree in modern humans, but it was purely speculative and presented more like a crackpot, out of left field theory.
Personally, I like these little forays out of the traditional parent blogging realm.
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by Florida Girl in Sydney
19 May 2010 at 22:52
(Imagine hand flying over my head)– I’m actually not at all smart enough for any of that, but I still wanted to say hello. Hope everyone is doing great. We’ve been out of touch with total chaos here– including the fact that tomorrow we will check our 6 yr. old into the hospital to eat nuts so we can see how allergic he really is to them.
Any advice on this– should we do it??? wtf.
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by Jacob
19 May 2010 at 23:03
I almost asked you about this when I first read it. You’re more of the expert in this area than I, but I always found it bizarre that our species and Neanderthals wouldn’t have reproduced. I mean, there’s a guy in South Carolina who’s been arrested for having sex with the same horse multiple times. I think the Bible has specific rules against having sex with sheep, or at least animals, meaning that people were doing it back then too. You just don’t make up rules against behaviors that have never happened.
I’ve got no proof of this, but I could very well see this genetic transfer having been what allowed our species to colonize subarctic and arctic areas. After all, weren’t the Neanderthals cold-weather specialists, or at least well adapted for the cold? After all Homo sapiens evolved for a tropical environment.
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by ohthatgirl
19 May 2010 at 23:40
I love your science posts also. This sort of thing fascinates me to no end. If I had not gone into architecture I think I would have been either an anthropologist or an archeaologist…our ancestry and cultural backgrounds can be so vague. Where DID we come from? What makes us who we are? I want to know!
Oh…and the part about the skin differences…SO INTERESTING.
Very nice post.
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by courtney
19 May 2010 at 23:56
Hmm, so I could be part Neandertal. That explains my giant forehead.
There’s an interesting article in Sports Illustrated (of all things) this week about genetic variance in Africans, basically saying that a Swedish person has more in common with a Chinese person than two Africans in the same village may have with each other. You should check it out.
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by lora
19 May 2010 at 23:56
I wondered if you’d touch on this, and I’m glad you did. You are much more interesting and concise and clear than half the articles (more than half, really) out there and I couldn’t stay interested or keep up with most that I read on the subject. So, thanks.
But what about what the Bible says?
Kidding.
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by Jason
20 May 2010 at 01:28
If you add up your posts about Neanderthals and the Georgia Bulldogs (since they’re really one and the same), would that be a greater number than the number of posts about your kids?
by muskrat
20 May 2010 at 01:30
This is nowhere close to being as big a deal as college football. I’m sorry.
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by Jamie
20 May 2010 at 02:22
Damn it, Jason got there first with the Bulldogs/Neandertals one and the same joke.. (Of course, that is like shooting fish in a barrel).
by Damon
20 May 2010 at 03:23
Oh, I knew sometime, somewhere the MH’s got it on with those with the broad shoulders and giant foreheads. That Scottish doctor on Grey’s Anatomy proves it.
I’m back…been away for awhile, but enjoy your science posts so much. Lucky I came back on the right day.
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by Seattledad (Luke, I am Your Father)
20 May 2010 at 07:07
I had heard that too and thought it a pretty interesting discovery. Since I hadn’t had a chance to read more about it this has been informative – and interesting.
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by ssg
20 May 2010 at 09:42
hah i love this song. Also the paper was pretty cool, though I know someone who worked on it and he was a bit of a twat; I hate it when that happens. Nice post.
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by admin
20 May 2010 at 10:04
Cat – My students would beg to differ with you.
Jill – Well, they’re a part of us, but maybe not a big enough part.
SciFi – Until this paper, I thought it was a lot of bunk as well. But this is solid work.
FGIS – Good to hear from you. As for the allergy test, why not? May make the boy’s life easier.
by Matthew
21 May 2010 at 02:04
Hybrid Vigor, baby!!
by admin
21 May 2010 at 14:43
Jacob – Well, I don’t think we should apply the cultural mores of South Carolina to the human race at large, do you? Buy your idea about cold tolerance isn’t unreasonable. Humans came out of balmy East Africa and then headed into a very cold Europe and Asia. The Neandertals were already living in the colder climate. Makes sense to me.
Ohthatgirl – Me too, I’ve been fascinated by our origins for years. I wish I had spent more time studying evolution along the way. I’m more of a casual observor these days.
Courtney – Ditto. I saw that SI article, I think that they’re a little bit confused.
Lora – Thanks. As for the bible, I don’t remember what Leviticus tells us about interspecific hominid mating. See if you can’t find out for me.
Jason – HA! Oh, wait, you can’t hear sarcasm through the internet? Huh, shame that.
Muskrat – You’re just saying that because you’re a Bama fan.
Jamie – I’m pretty sure that the few remaining extant Neandertals live in north Central Florida and gather in Gainesville on autumn Saturdays.
Damon – Now I need to see Grey’s Anatomy.
Jamie -
by Margaret (Nanny Goats)
21 May 2010 at 17:14
It’s reached the point where any time I hear “health care”, I want to crawl into a hole.
Also? “Pleistocene interspecific shagfest” has a nice ring to it.
Hey, speaking of updating curriculums based on new evidence, are Creationists trying to worm their way (and their agenda) into science classrooms (and textbooks) on your side of the planet?
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by Kevin C Jones
21 May 2010 at 18:38
This is (relatively) old news in geogenetics. Homo Neanderthalus and Erectus were not completely seperable species by the time the former became extinct, and the cross culturation beforehand is evident that there was some continual contact between them.
DNA testing and genetic analyses are periodically reviewed and revised. Unfortunately, they support the concept of “race”, or as I prefer “genetic origin”.
by Gappy
21 May 2010 at 21:59
Really interesting post. I read about this also. I knew previous thinking was that it was a bit like horses and donkeys mating i.e. it happened but didn’t produce viable offspring. So this latest discovery is pretty amazing really.
I have also written about Neanderthals on my blog. Like yourself I’m fascinated by human origin, and particularly interested in Neanderthals as they are said to be the first early humans to have buried their dead and shown signs of more ‘human’ characteristics.
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by Joe
21 May 2010 at 22:38
I started reading about this and then realized that it was a bit above my IQ scale, so… thanks for breaking it down. I wonder what all this scientific discovery will do for religious zealots. I often think that religion is in place, in it’s current form, to maintain order. If all of mankind decided that a deity was false, what incentive would there be to “love thy neighbor”?
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by rassles
22 May 2010 at 04:07
Did you hear about that book about the guy who fucked a dolphin that was sending him sexy psychic pick-up lines?
This doesn’t remind me of that, but you know. INTERSPECIES RAH.
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by Allie
23 May 2010 at 00:24
That’s really fascinating! What always amazes me about discoveries in evolution is the emotions that get involved, and how that colors what information gets spread and how. I watched a documentary about human evolution a few months ago, and was shocked by how people get bent out of shape by new discoveries because they in some way feel its some kind of negative commentary on themselves. It’s not emotional. It either happened or it didn’t, and it’s so much cooler to know.
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by ellie
23 May 2010 at 03:46
I love learning so much from you. Sadly, my retention levels are low. I will probably only remember (but will definitely employ) the acronym: BFD.
I blame my Neanderthal background.
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by Nathan B.
25 May 2010 at 00:41
It’s not totally surprising to me that an Neanderthal genes present in modern human genomes are “neutral”, considering that Neanderthals went extinct…seems like the selection criteria favored the pre-modern human genome, so I would’ve been surprised if “advantageous” genes in the modern human genome had Neanderthal origin.
Of course, I was trained as a plant geneticist, so anything without a cell wall is foreign to me.
by Vixen
26 May 2010 at 12:24
I am so impressed with they way you are able to teach me things while entertaining me. Seriously, you are an amazingly smart and entertaining dude. Lucky kids to have such an awesome dad.
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